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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2007Squeak from left front:what else besides brakes?
2001 Kia Optima, 91,000 miles. Owned for 2 1/2 years. I replaced the tires and brakes when I bought the car. Ever since replacing brakes the car has had a squeak from the left front. It only happens at low speed and is especially bad when turning in a circle to the left. The sound was so bad friday I had the front brakes re-done on Saturday. Guess what, the sound remains. What else should I be looking at besides the brakes? Owners's manual says car has a "Squeaker/Screamer" >whatever< Could the thing just be too touchy? BTW, female here and don't have the tools or knowledge to fix this my self. On Oct 29, 9:13 am, MachineMessiah <Geoffthegodofbiscu...@cakeordeath.ne> wrote: > 2001 Kia Optima, 91,000 miles. Owned for 2 1/2 years. > I replaced the tires and brakes when I bought the car. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > BTW, female here and don't have the tools or knowledge to fix this my > self. When I have funny noises from the brakes I just drive it hard and hope they'll wear away. Doesn't really work, but it's satisfying :) If I was you I'd jack it up and spin the wheel and have a look/listen right up close. Maybe there's a stone caught in it or something. Don't need tools or knowledge for that. Does the sound change when you apply the brakes? That'd be a good sign it's the brakes. snip > When I have funny noises from the brakes I just drive it hard and hope > they'll wear away. Doesn't really work, but it's satisfying :) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Does the sound change when you apply the brakes? That'd be a good sign > it's the brakes. The squeaking stops when applying the brakes, when driving over 20 miles an hour or so. It squeaks at low speed, when coasting and turning at the same time. Car knowledgeable friend of mine to me to slam on the brakes a few times to help seat the pads to the rotors. I've also read slaming on the brakes is what causes glazing on the pads/rotors. Could it be a wheel bearing, tie rod end or ball joint? Will have to borrow a jack to try your suggestion. Thanks for the reply. >snip >> When I have funny noises from the brakes I just drive it hard and hope [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Will have to borrow a jack to try your suggestion. >Thanks for the reply. Does it get worse when you accelerate in a turn? That's the test for a bad CV joint. > >snip > >> When I have funny noises from the brakes I just drive it hard and hope [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Does it get worse when you accelerate in a turn? That's the test for a bad > CV joint. Thanks for the reply. No, accelerating makes it stop as does hitting the brakes. It went almost the entire day today and did't squeak. Started squeaking again at 4:30 as I drove home from work. Grrr. Still doesn't sound nearly as bad as it did Friday. On Oct 29, 6:12 pm, MachineMessiah <Geoffthegodofbiscu...@cakeordeath.ne> wrote: > In article <slrnfianh0.fdf.aznoma...@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>, > aznoma...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM says... [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Started squeaking again at 4:30 as I drove home from work. Grrr. > Still doesn't sound nearly as bad as it did Friday.- Hide quoted text - I don't know what to say other than the *noise* needs to be diagnosed by a competent tech. The problem with your last move was that you asked for a brake job when the real issue was a squealing noise. As far as non-brake pad related possibilies; 1) Backing plate rubbing on rotor 2) Loose wheel bearings, which would mean trashed bearings on that design of double row ball bearing assembly 3) Bearing dust seal dry, brittle, noisy --or-- bearing dust deflector rubbing on moving race portion of bearing. 1) and 2) are the only things I would seriously suspect, assuming this is a front wheel area noise, and assuming that pad replacement would have turned up anything pad related or obvious. I betcha a real mechanic would find it in short order, and if not there would be a logical progression to his diagnostic steps that would cost you the least amount of money in the long run to fix the noise. After all, you did indicate that you weren't personally going to get involved in the repair, so I guess whoever does work on your car might as well be competent. Toyota MDT in MO snip > I don't know what to say other than the *noise* needs to be diagnosed > by a competent tech. The problem with your last move was that you > asked for a brake job when the real issue was a squealing noise. snip You're damn right on that. They were very careful about how they wrote the work order: "customer says replace front brakes" not "investigate squeak". Totally my fault. They did exactly what I asked. snip > As far as non-brake pad related possibilies; > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Toyota MDT in MO snip No, I can't do any of the work myself, wish I could. I'm having the timing belt replaced tomorrow and the tires rotated. I'll ask them to check the bearing on that wheel too. The wheel would fall off if the bearing totally blew up, right? Friend had that happen once. Car was an AMC Gremlin :0 >No, I can't do any of the work myself, wish I could. >I'm having the timing belt replaced tomorrow and the tires rotated. >I'll ask them to check the bearing on that wheel too. >The wheel would fall off if the bearing totally blew up, right? >Friend had that happen once. Car was an AMC Gremlin :0 No, ask them to check and see what the squeak is on that side. As you learned from above if you ask for a service to be performed the shop will perform that service and have no idea that you actually wanted a squeak fixed. It is good to come here and get some ideas of what the problem could be so that you don't get taken advantage of but let the shop do their own diagnosis. Steve B. > >No, I can't do any of the work myself, wish I could. > >I'm having the timing belt replaced tomorrow and the tires rotated. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Steve B. Will do. Someone in another forum said suspension bushings might be worth looking at too. Car's getting timing belt now. I passed on the tire rotation for now. Will be sure to ask just locate the squeak next time. I got in the habit of researching this stuff myself after having a TCC solenoid die on another car. I took it to 3 shops all of which failed to drive the car long enough to replicate the problem. Thanks very much for the reply. >Someone in another forum said suspension bushings might be worth looking >at too. Absolutely. And don't forget the exhaust system either. Get a wooden mallet and beat on the exhaust pipe, the muffler, and the converter. If the exhaust system starts shaking around and the clamps are loose, it will squeak. >I got in the habit of researching this stuff myself after having a TCC >solenoid die on another car. I took it to 3 shops all of which failed to >drive the car long enough to replicate the problem. This is a good thing. Too many drivers just leave all maintenance in someone else's hands, and that's asking for trouble. --scott  Signature"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." > >Someone in another forum said suspension bushings might be worth looking > >at too. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Hi,,, I have had the exact same problem on my GTS - T Skyline and the problem is simple... Its not bearings, its not bushes or anything that was said above (but they are possible). The problem is a little thing called a SQUEAL PLATE. It is common practice for a tech to remove these as some think you are pointless, I'm sure like me you would dissage. Ask your tech to replace the plate ettew the Brake pads and the calliper pistion and you problem will be solved. REGARDS The great OZZY mechanic If you wont to know more just email me: jasonappo@hotmail.com > >Someone in another forum said suspension bushings might be worth looking > >at too. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Hi,,, I have had the exact same problem on my GTS - T Skyline and the problem is simple... Its not bearings, its not bushes or anything that was said above (but they are possible). The problem is a little thing called a SQUEAL PLATE. It is common practice for a tech to remove these as some think you are pointless, I'm sure like me you would dissage. Ask your tech to replace the plate ettew the Brake pads and the calliper pistion and you problem will be solved. REGARDS The great OZZY mechanic If you wont to know more just email me: jasonappo@hotmail.com > On Oct 29, 6:12 pm, MachineMessiah > <Geoffthegodofbiscu...@cakeordeath.ne> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > Toyota MDT in MO I would bet it had something assembled wrong when the OP did the first brake job. Since he says the noise has been there for a while > Owned for 2 1/2 years. I replaced the tires and brakes when I bought the car. Ever since replacing brakes the car has had a squeak from the left front.< I would doubt it is a CV joint or a wheel bearing in that amount of time it would have shown up as a real problem. Sounds more like a caliper was put back on wrong and it it causing the pad to drag on one edge. The OP needs to take it to a good shop and have them listen to it and take a look. SignatureSteve W. Near Cooperstown, New York On Oct 29, 2:38 pm, MachineMessiah <Geoffthegodofbiscu...@cakeordeath.ne> wrote: > The squeaking stops when applying the brakes, when driving over 20 miles > an hour or so. It squeaks at low speed, when coasting and turning at the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > brakes is what causes glazing on the pads/rotors. > Could it be a wheel bearing, tie rod end or ball joint? Wheel bearing you'd feel it vibrating, especially at higher speeds. Tie rod end or ball joint wouldn't squeak with smooth driving because it's not moving. Glazing's from overheating, it'll be fine to do what he says. As long as its just a sound and you can't feel anything it's pretty safe. It even has the bonus that you'll get pervs when you go cruising through town! > 2001 Kia Optima, 91,000 miles. Owned for 2 1/2 years. > I replaced the tires and brakes when I bought the car. > Ever since replacing brakes the car has had a squeak from the left > front. It only happens at low speed and is especially bad when turning > in a circle to the left. The sound was so bad friday I had the front > brakes re-done on Saturday. Guess what, the sound remains. If this was a quality vehicle I'd say the problem is aftermarket pads. But this is a Kia, so... SignatureTegger > > 2001 Kia Optima, 91,000 miles. Owned for 2 1/2 years. > > I replaced the tires and brakes when I bought the car. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > But this is a Kia, so... Lol! Yeah but I got A LOT of car for my 5 grand. Working AC 6 airbags AM/FM radio with a cd player. Looks decent, my dad can't bitch about it. Gets good gas mileage too. I just don't want a wheel to fall off or the steering to suddenly quit. They only thing it doen't have that I'd like is antilock brakes. Love the cd player and AC the most. |
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