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$50 paint job!!

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z - 30 Oct 2007 22:00 GMT
I saw this on another newsgroup
http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html
(this is not a sales pitch, there is nothing for sale, there is no way
to send anybody money even if you wanted to, and I am not associated
with the site or anyone associated with the site in any way)
Scott Dorsey - 30 Oct 2007 22:45 GMT
>I saw this on another newsgroup
>(this is not a sales pitch, there is nothing for sale, there is no way
>to send anybody money even if you wanted to, and I am not associated
>with the site or anyone associated with the site in any way)

Do they use a brush or a roller?  
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Steve W. - 31 Oct 2007 06:20 GMT
>> I saw this on another newsgroup
>> (this is not a sales pitch, there is nothing for sale, there is no way
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Do they use a brush or a roller?  
> --scott

Foam roller. Actually it's a valid way to paint if you have the time to
do the inter coat sanding. I have seen a couple vehicles painted with
the same method and they look just as good as the high dollar jobs. I
think I would opt for regular automotive paint though.

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Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

muzician21@yahoo.com - 31 Oct 2007 07:28 GMT
> Foam roller. Actually it's a valid way to paint if you have the time to
> do the inter coat sanding. I have seen a couple vehicles painted with
> the same method and they look just as good as the high dollar jobs.

Once upon a time weren't cars painted with a brush at the factory?

> I think I would opt for regular automotive paint though.

Wondering how auto paint would behave when applied this way. Wouldn't
you have to thin it differently than you would for spray application?
And wouldn't it require a lot more paint to do it this way?
Noozer - 31 Oct 2007 09:16 GMT
>> Foam roller. Actually it's a valid way to paint if you have the time to
>> do the inter coat sanding. I have seen a couple vehicles painted with
>> the same method and they look just as good as the high dollar jobs.

> Once upon a time weren't cars painted with a brush at the factory?

No... I think "dipping" was the old fashioned way.

>> I think I would opt for regular automotive paint though.

> Wondering how auto paint would behave when applied this way. Wouldn't
> you have to thin it differently than you would for spray application?
> And wouldn't it require a lot more paint to do it this way?

I'd like to know as well... I don't think Rustoleum makes a "clearcoat" that
would do very well.

I do imagine that there are probably a few different types of paint that
would lend itself well to the application though.

I'm quite interested to know more, as I've got an old van in great shape
that simply needs some paint.
Steve W. - 31 Oct 2007 15:44 GMT
>> Foam roller. Actually it's a valid way to paint if you have the time to
>> do the inter coat sanding. I have seen a couple vehicles painted with
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> you have to thin it differently than you would for spray application?
> And wouldn't it require a lot more paint to do it this way?

Well there is an example of a roller paint job sitting in my FILs barn.
He painted his 69 Scout that way a dozen years ago. He didn't thin the
paint and didn't do much sanding so it has some orange peel. Doesn't
look bad though. He used DuPont Enamel from a local body shop (it was a
wrong color mix but it was very close to IH red) I think he used 2
quarts which isn't that bad. I would probably thin it more and then
color sand it to smooth it out. In reality it is nothing more than
putting the paint onto the surface. The difference between a high end
paint job and an Earl Sheib special is in the prep, detail work and
quality of materials. If you are willing to put the time into it I would
bet you could do as well as the high dollar shops AND save a bunch of
money to boot.

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Near Cooperstown, New York

anon@idirect.ca - 31 Oct 2007 16:58 GMT
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpa
rt=1&vc=1


here's how i painted my car for about $50, it's actually very easy and
the results are amazing. First off, get a can of tremclad real orange
(or what ever color u want) in the can, not spray, yes tremclad, it is
a acrylic/enamel paint which is very durable. next prep your car as if
was any other paint job, fix all the rust, ect....no need to prime the
car since the tremclad allready contains elements which allow it to be
painted over bare metal. next, after prepping the car get a small 4"
professional FOAM rollers, it's tiny and has one end rounded off, and
the other cut straight, and is a very high density foam. u also need a
jug of mineral spirits to thin the paint. The thing i really like
about this is that there's no mess, no tapeing the whole car, just key
areas, and u can do it in your garage, since your not spraying there
is virtually no dust in the air, just clean your garage first, also it
does'nt really smell at all, dries overnight and it super tough paint.
also it you decide to paint the car professionally later, just prep
and paint, there's no need to strip the tremclad. i have done this to
a few cars, and i can say it works amazing, u just have to be
paitient. next u thin the paint with mineral spirits so it just about
as thin as water, a little thicker. get out the roller and paint away,
don't get the paint shaked when u buy it, enamel is stirred, otherwise
you'll have bubbles in the paint for a week!!! after u do 2 coats, wet
sand the whole car, then repeat, 2 coats, wetsand, 2 coats wetsand. i
painted the charger using a can since your not spraying the car u use
all the paint and not spray 50% in the air, use progressivly finer
sand paper each time. it's not really that much work, cause u can stop
and start any time, u can do just a door, or the hood, ect. do one
panel at a time, and don't stop once you start. once your done the
final coat, wetsand with about 1000 grit to a totally smooth finish,
and then using a high speed polisher i use a buffing bonnet and turtle
wax polishing compound. do the whole car with this, and i'm telling u,
depending on the amount of time and paitence you have, the results are
amazing. laugh if you want, but for $50 ($30 for paint, about $20 for
rollers, sand paper, ect...) it really looks good. also you can do
these steps overnight, paint one evening and by morning u can wet
sand. i have personally done alot of painting, mostly single stage
acrylic enamel, and i've sprayed several cars in my garage with really
good professional results, just it stinks, it's a real pain to do,
easy to make a mistake, messy, and expensive. The tremclad is awesome
paint, the "real orange" is an amazing hemi orange, and almost looks
like it has some perl in the sun, awesome color right out of the can.
I used this technique on my 1974 beetle also, here are the results:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/Picture10.jpg

the car before:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/IM000475.jpg

another after pic:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC00164.jpg

here is a car i sprayed (71 beetle, midnight blue metalic):

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC00194.jpg

here is the car before (71 beetle):

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/Picture1.jpg

here's a few pics of the charger done:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC02764.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/DSC02769.jpg

well that's my 2 cents worth, sorry for the long post. i was borred
lol
i painted the orange beetle in 1999, and it still looks like the day i
painted it, the 71 blue beetle i painted in 2000, and built the car
for my dad, i used the same paint on my charger, maybe one day i'll
spring for a good paint job, prepping is 90% of the work, stripping
the car, sanding, ect.....painting is overrated!!!
So if you have TIME, then i'd say go for it, the worst that could
happen is that it does'nt turn out and your out $50, but if your
paitient, and expriement with lets say just the trunk pannel and if
you like it do the whole car, if not just get it done by someone else
for $4000. i don't know about you guys, but i would rather spend the
$4000 on other parts like getting the mechanics sorted out and new
chrome, cause when u have really nice paint and crappy bumpers, door
handles it just sticks out more.
muzician21@yahoo.com - 31 Oct 2007 07:22 GMT
> I saw this on another newsgrouphttp://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html
> (this is not a sales pitch, there is nothing for sale, there is no way
> to send anybody money even if you wanted to, and I am not associated
> with the site or anyone associated with the site in any way)

Interesting, but isn't Rustoleum going to be a lot softer than genuine
automotive paint? Wondering under what circumstances it would make a
difference. Scratch resistance?

I wonder how other Rustoleum colors would fare. White generally holds
up better than other colors doesn't it?

It does look purty. It would be funny if someone painted a car this
way and won an award at a car show, beating out paint jobs people
spent thousands on.
z - 31 Oct 2007 14:57 GMT
On Oct 31, 2:22 am, muzicia...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > I saw this on another newsgrouphttp://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html
> > (this is not a sales pitch, there is nothing for sale, there is no way
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> way and won an award at a car show, beating out paint jobs people
> spent thousands on.

What's ironic is that back in the late 60s I painted an AMT Corvair
model with just that shade of Rustoleum, and that was from a spray
can. Didn't look half as purty, though.

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