I'm replacing a broken exhaust clamp on my 85 Chevy Caprice. It's
going onto the pipes in front of the cat converter. I was tightening
it up tighter and tighter, and the 2 pipes never tightened up on each
other. I could still turn the cat pipe over the header pipe easily,
and there was still some exhaust blowing out of the space between the
pipes. Just how tight do you have to make these things? I don't want
to keep tightening, then hear "snap!", or "brang!" and have one of the
pipes get messed up.
The pipe on the cat is supposed to be squeezed down by the clamp onto
the header pipe, making a seal, right ???
The clamp is supposedly the right size. 2.25 inch. It fits on
nize and snug.
I could just keep tightening and tightening, I guess, but it's already
pretty tight.
Thanks
N8N - 06 Nov 2007 18:32 GMT
> I'm replacing a broken exhaust clamp on my 85 Chevy Caprice. It's
> going onto the pipes in front of the cat converter. I was tightening
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>
> Thanks
I've never been able to make a "perfect" seal with a u-clamp,
especially when one of the pipes is used. If you never plan on taking
the connection apart again, use muffler epoxy on the joint, then
assemble, tighten clamp, and finally tack weld pipes into place. If
you think you may want to disassemble in the future, follow the same
steps but use high-temp silicone instead of the muffler epoxy. I say
tack weld rather than a full weld because then you can just grind them
off later, but the clamp alone is seldom enough to keep the pipes from
shifting WRT each other unless you get the clamp tight enough to crimp
the pipes together, in which case you will NEVER get them apart.
nate
Ray - 06 Nov 2007 19:50 GMT
> I'm replacing a broken exhaust clamp on my 85 Chevy Caprice. It's
> going onto the pipes in front of the cat converter. I was tightening
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>
> Thanks
My experience with muffler clamps is you have to go back and forth from
one bolt to the other to get it tightened down evenly.
Is it possible it's too big and you've bottomed out/stripped it? Maybe
your exhaust is only 2 1/8 or 2" instead of 2 1/4.
It's also possible that the pipes are rotten at the joint, and there's a
pinhole (or larger) leak that you'll not be able to fix with anything
short of a proper repair, because all you're doing is crushing rotted
exhaust pipe. (been there, done that.)
ray's $1 fix:
Take a beer/coke/soup can, slit it lengthwise, cover the inside with
muffler cement and slide it over the pipe. Use a couple of muffler
clamps and/or hose clamps. It'll probably hold for about a month to a
year before burning through.
Ray
cuhulin@webtv.net - 06 Nov 2007 20:44 GMT
In 1990, I was using some J B Weld on something unrelated to my 1978
Dodge van.I had a little dab of J B Weld left over and just for the heck
of it, I put that little dab of J B Weld on the top of my van's tail
pipe.I haden't bothered to clean off that top area near the end of the
tailpipe,I just sloshed the J B Weld on to the tailpipe with a
screwdriver.It is still there after 17 years as good as new.Maybe some J
B Weld will fill up the gap in your exhaust pipe.A few years ago, I was
painting my house and the neighbor's black cat got a little too close to
my paint brush.Just for the heck of it, I painted a white racing stripe
on that cat's back.
cuhulin
Caprice85 - 07 Nov 2007 14:49 GMT
Thanks for the ideas and info.
My plan at this point is to put the new clamp on, as tightly as I
feel safe with, then just cover up the gap between the pipes with some
"muffler weld" putty, which I can break off easily enough if I need
to reomove the cat ever. I have to get the car past inspection in
the next 2 months.
I got my other car past inspection with the putty in a small area of
the exhaust, so I'll probably be OK again.
N8N - 07 Nov 2007 15:49 GMT
> Thanks for the ideas and info.
>
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> I got my other car past inspection with the putty in a small area of
> the exhaust, so I'll probably be OK again.
I actually use the putty inside the joint, but then again I don't plan
on taking it apart. If you do need to, you can cut two slits in the
outside pipe and peel it back with an air chisel, obviously this will
destroy it however.
nate
cuhulin@webtv.net - 07 Nov 2007 17:11 GMT
Muffler shops have (some of them do anyway) several different sizes of
exhust pipe expanders.(for lack of what I know what those tools are
called,,,, exhaust pipe expanders?) They are used for increasing the
outside diameter of exhaust pipes that are a little too small in
diameter so that the ''too small'' exhaust pipe will match up properly
with another exhaust pipe, muffler or whatever.
cuhulin
Caprice85 - 12 Nov 2007 00:27 GMT
Update on exhaust clamp. I went to two exhaust shops and asked them
what they thought. They assured me that I couldn't damage anything by
tightening up a lot more on the clamp. So, even though I was a bit
skeptical, I did just that, and luckily the thing tightened up just
fine without crimping the pipes or stripping the threads on the u
bolt, the pipes are tight together and no more exhaust leak.