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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2007

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Spark Plug Brands????

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gmark - 10 Nov 2007 09:46 GMT
My 2003 Pontiac Montana runs well, but at over 115,000 miles,
I figure it's due for new plugs. It's been only about five years since
I did a tune-up on any car, and the prices floored me.  Plugs for this
thing ranged from 14.95 each down to 1.69 for Champions.

Is there any real difference to make it worth the extra 80 bucks or
so?

Mark
racindad36@hotmail.com - 10 Nov 2007 11:55 GMT
> My 2003 Pontiac Montana runs well, but at over 115,000 miles,
> I figure it's due for new plugs. It's been only about five years since
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>
> Mark

If your Montana has run well on the original "factory" plugs for that
long, Why would you want to try any other brand or style? I think the
engineers at GM got it right. Over the years I have solved many
problems by replacing optional plugs with original style and brand
plugs. I have only been repairing cars since 1977.  Your van uses AC
delco #41-101 plugs for about $6.50 each. I would recomend replacing
the plug wires at the same time since they are most likely just as
old.
Nate Nagel - 10 Nov 2007 11:59 GMT
> My 2003 Pontiac Montana runs well, but at over 115,000 miles,
> I figure it's due for new plugs. It's been only about five years since
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>
> Mark

If the factory ones worked well, I'd stick with those.  there is a real
difference in plugs, but it works both ways - I've had poor luck with
Champions in older cars (flood the engine once and the plugs are never
the same) but some of the highly priced plugs are either just gimmicks
that separate you from your money (Splitfire being an example that comes
readily to mind) or else may be platinum plugs which aren't appropriate
for all applications (again, they do not work well in older engines)

I know some of my comments above don't directly pertain to your car, but
my real point was, if the stock parts worked well, and you're not
hot-rodding it, why pay more for replacements?

nate

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cuhulin@webtv.net - 10 Nov 2007 14:59 GMT
Yep, if you had good luck with the factory plugs, buy new plugs of the
same brand name and number.Like racindad36 said, it is also a good idea
to buy new plug wires too.Get new factory plug wires at your local area
Pontiac dealership.
cuhulin
aarcuda69062 - 10 Nov 2007 15:10 GMT
In article
<1194687983.244560.75450@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

> My 2003 Pontiac Montana runs well, but at over 115,000 miles,
> I figure it's due for new plugs. It's been only about five years since
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Mark

The correct plug for your van is the stock AC Delco 41-101 as
mentioned in another post.

If you're going to change them yourself, you are in for a whole
new experience in pain, agony and frustration.  Do yourself a
favor and put the ACs in, the buck sixty-nine spark plugs aren't
going to last very long.

How's the coolant holding up?  At 115k miles, the intake manifold
gaskets should be leaking coolant if they haven't been changed
already.  You may want to investigate further before you get too
committed to this van.
gmark - 10 Nov 2007 21:16 GMT
> In article
> <1194687983.244560.75...@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> already.  You may want to investigate further before you get too
> committed to this van.

Thanks, all!

Mark
Steve Austin - 17 Nov 2007 06:11 GMT
> In article
> <1194687983.244560.75450@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> already.  You may want to investigate further before you get too
> committed to this van.

A good time to get to those rear plugs is when all the stuff is off for
the manifold job. (And the front of the subframe dropped if you do it
that way)
Scott Dorsey - 10 Nov 2007 22:56 GMT
>My 2003 Pontiac Montana runs well, but at over 115,000 miles,
>I figure it's due for new plugs. It's been only about five years since
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Is there any real difference to make it worth the extra 80 bucks or
>so?

There is a real difference, and on some vehicles you may find that
spending the $80 gives you a car that runs a lot worse, while on others
you may find that it gives you a car that runs better.

Obviously whatever is in there has been serving you well.  Buy whatever
you used last time.  Or buy whatever brand Pontiac recommends.
--scott
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philthy - 17 Nov 2007 00:59 GMT
use ac delco platiums or ngk platiums and take it some were to have it
done
it will take you on the ground to change plugs at least 6 hours trying to
get to the rear plugs

> My 2003 Pontiac Montana runs well, but at over 115,000 miles,
> I figure it's due for new plugs. It's been only about five years since
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Mark
Eric F - 22 Nov 2007 19:41 GMT
Use AC Delco 41-101 platnum plugs.
they are OE, the are designed for your motor and will last another 80,000
miles.
Replace the wires as well, you DO NOT need to waste money on AC Delco wires,
any quality brand will work just fine.

you are paying more for a platnum plug vs a copper cored plug, and also the
AC Delco name.

> My 2003 Pontiac Montana runs well, but at over 115,000 miles,
> I figure it's due for new plugs. It's been only about five years since
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>
> Mark
 
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