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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / December 2007

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moreairguns@icqmail.com - 26 Dec 2007 13:10 GMT
I was wondering, would it do a car any good if the a bigger ram air is
installed?

Going extremes, a giant cone attached to the air intake system of the
engine and then mounted on the front of the car.  With that giant
cone, would the car still do good even at high speeds?

I was thinking that at slow speeds, it would be able to take in more
air and pressurize it as the air reaches the smaller part of the cone
BUT at high speeds, the air drag might just be worse than engine the
power gains.... what do you think???
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 26 Dec 2007 15:20 GMT
On Dec 26, 7:10 am, moreairg...@icqmail.com wrote:
> I was wondering, would it do a car any good if the a bigger ram air is
> installed?
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> BUT at high speeds, the air drag might just be worse than engine the
> power gains.... what do you think???

One can calculate the boost pressure pretty easily- 1/2 density times
square of speed.  The pressure is pretty low until you get to high
speeds, highway speeds at least.  While this would help VE to some
degree, it is not worth it unless you are running for a lot of money
and every quarter second ET or per lap counts. And size only needs to
be only a bit larger than the intake area of carb or throttle body.
moreairguns@icqmail.com - 27 Dec 2007 00:02 GMT
Yes I know that boost will be low until the car reaches high speeds
and that's why I was thinking of making the cone/funnel/scoop larger
to be able to "catch" more air and pressurize it...even at low speeds.

My question is, would the air drag caused by a bigger ram air be worse
than the power gains to the engine?

On Dec 26, 11:20 pm, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net>
wrote:
> On Dec 26, 7:10 am, moreairg...@icqmail.com wrote:
>
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> and every quarter second ET or per lap counts. And size only needs to
> be only a bit larger than the intake area of carb or throttle body.
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 27 Dec 2007 14:31 GMT
On Dec 26, 6:02 pm, moreairg...@icqmail.com wrote:
> Yes I know that boost will be low until the car reaches high speeds
> and that's why I was thinking of making the cone/funnel/scoop larger
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> > and every quarter second ET or per lap counts. And size only needs to
> > be only a bit larger than the intake area of carb or throttle body.

Probably, but the drag will depend on the total drag of the vehicle.
What is it, a dragster, funny car, pro-stock?  You need to get wind
tunnel time to make sure.
 
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