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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / January 2008

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bob@coolgroups.com - 13 Jan 2008 07:14 GMT
Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?

The first setting is off.  The second setting seems to be all night

lights on except headlights.  The third setting seems to be all night

lights on including headlights.  What is the purpose of this
second setting?
Paul - 13 Jan 2008 07:38 GMT
> Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>
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> lights on including headlights.  What is the purpose of this
> second setting?

AFAIK, nearly all vehicles have those settings.
In the USA the first setting is usually called "park lights".
IMO, it is pretty useless because you can't drive on them.
Maybe they are good for when parked along the road or something.
clifto - 13 Jan 2008 16:41 GMT
>> Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>>
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> IMO, it is pretty useless because you can't drive on them.
> Maybe they are good for when parked along the road or something.

It's good for lighting up the dashboard without using the headlights, so
you can see in the dark inside the cabin but not outside, and so other
people can't see you coming. At least that's the way so many idiots use
them.

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Ulf - 13 Jan 2008 17:34 GMT
>>> Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>>>
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> people can't see you coming. At least that's the way so many idiots use
> them.

LOL.

I use the parking lights together with the front fog lights often when I
don't need the light to see, just be seen. Saves wear on my expensive
50%+ bulbs and looks nicer too.

BTW, no one mentioned the ability to switch on the parking lights on one
side only with the turn signal stalk. Consumes just 10W, or about .8A,
making it possible to leave them on all night.

Ulf
Steve - 16 Jan 2008 20:30 GMT
> LOL.
>
> I use the parking lights together with the front fog lights often when I
> don't need the light to see, just be seen. Saves wear on my expensive
> 50%+ bulbs and looks nicer too.

Fog lights are the most offensive, glaring thing I see in traffic these
days. There are tons of inconsiderate jerks who use the damn things on
100% clear nights, and they will be the first ones against the wall when
the revolution comes.
Nate Nagel - 14 Jan 2008 00:45 GMT
>>>Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>>>
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> people can't see you coming. At least that's the way so many idiots use
> them.

It's also nice if you are, say, waiting for someone in a parking lot and
want to use the radio (assuming an old style LCD or mechanical display)
but not blind the people in the next row.

nate

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Scott Dorsey - 14 Jan 2008 01:40 GMT
>It's also nice if you are, say, waiting for someone in a parking lot and
>want to use the radio (assuming an old style LCD or mechanical display)
>but not blind the people in the next row.

When I took driver's education (a long time ago... long enough that we
had manual transmission cars), the instructor called them "running lights"
and not "parking lights."  It was explained that they could be used for
driving when it was not dark enough for headlights.
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Steve - 16 Jan 2008 20:28 GMT
>>Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>>
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> IMO, it is pretty useless because you can't drive on them.
> Maybe they are good for when parked along the road or something.

Exactly. This original intent of this setting has been mostly supplanted
by hazard flashers, but is still retained.
BobJ - 13 Jan 2008 13:02 GMT
> Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> lights on including headlights.  What is the purpose of this
> second setting?

In some countries, in Europe, you are required to leave your
'parking' lights on when you park in certain areas, after dark.
Thomas Tornblom - 13 Jan 2008 14:20 GMT
>> Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>> The first setting is off.  The second setting seems to be all night
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> In some countries, in Europe, you are required to leave your 'parking'
> lights on when you park in certain areas, after dark.

Uh? Don't all cars come like this?
Ashton Crusher - 14 Jan 2008 00:04 GMT
>> Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>>
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>In some countries, in Europe, you are required to leave your
>'parking' lights on when you park in certain areas, after dark.

I think that's true here in the states also but there is a lot of fine
print that give loopholes to the point where it almost never actually
required.  At least that's how the law is in Arizona.
Woody - 13 Jan 2008 16:39 GMT
Many communities in the US require the parking lights on when parking on the
street at night. The only problem is many Japanese cars with the auto lights
off feature turn them off after a few seconds and there is no way to keep
them on except leaving the key in the ignition. Thoughtless engineering...

> Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> lights on including headlights.  What is the purpose of this
> second setting?
M.M. - 13 Jan 2008 17:17 GMT
> Many communities in the US require the parking lights on when parking on the
> street at night. ...

I have never been or lived anywhere in the U.S. that required 'parking'
light to be on. Please name a few examples...

When I lived in Switzerland (Geneva) many years ago, it was illegal to
use your headlights when driving in town where there were streetlights,
only 'parking' lights could be used.
Ashton Crusher - 14 Jan 2008 00:08 GMT
>> Many communities in the US require the parking lights on when parking on the
>> street at night. ...
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>use your headlights when driving in town where there were streetlights,
>only 'parking' lights could be used.

I can only vouch for the Arizona Law but my experience tells me there
will be other states with the same law.... here in Arizona the law
requires you to have your parking lights on  in specific situations
when parked.  It must have been written a LONG time ago when most of
the roads were narrow, there were few streetlights, and cars broke
down a lot.  Basically if you "park" in a situation where visibility
is poor, (basically at night when there is no streetlights and no full
moon) and where traffic might run into an unlighted car, you have to
have your parking lights on.
Ray - 13 Jan 2008 22:10 GMT
> Many communities in the US require the parking lights on when parking on the
> street at night. The only problem is many Japanese cars with the auto lights
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> lights on including headlights.  What is the purpose of this
>> second setting?

My Subaru has a separate switch to enable the park lights to stay on
with the ignition off.  I thought THAT was the weirdest thing.
Steve - 16 Jan 2008 20:27 GMT
> Can someone explain why there are 3 light settings on a BMW 328is?
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> lights on including headlights.  What is the purpose of this
> second setting?

Are there many cars in the world that do NOT have that setup? Everything
I own from 1949 to the present works that way. The first setting is
commonly called "parking" lights, and really doesn't have much use now
that hazard flashers are the norm and work better for indicating that
you are stopped adjacent to the flow of traffic. But the setting remains
on all cars.
 
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