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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / January 2008Is this tire repairable?
Got a screw in my tire. Do you think this is repairable or is it too close to the sidewall? Thanks. http://home.pacbell.net/cclary1/Tire.jpg > Got a screw in my tire. Do you think this is repairable or is it too > close to the sidewall? Thanks. > http://home.pacbell.net/cclary1/Tire.jpg That is considered in the tread area and should be fixable. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com > sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Got a screw in my tire. Do you think this is repairable or is it too [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build > Photos:http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com Would a plug hold up or should I get it patched? On Jan 21, 1:35 pm, sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: > > sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > Got a screw in my tire. Do you think this is repairable or is it too [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Would a plug hold up or should I get it patched? ________________________ I dig that handle - are you a Charlie Daniels fan? -CC >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> Got a screw in my tire. Do you think this is repairable or is it too [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Would a plug hold up or should I get it patched? Plugs are temporary repairs. Proper repair involves dismounting the tire, installing a tread plug and a patch on the inside. You want to seal the inner liner so it holds air and doesn't separate, plus you want to seal the exterior puncture to keep water/crud from getting into the belts and causing problems. I use a kit like this one http://www.alltiresupply.com/c-Rema_Minicombi.html for more items http://www.rematiptop.com/trm.htm  SignatureSteve W. > sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > -- > Steve W. Having worked in a garage for a few years (and plugged more than a few holes) and having driven on a heckufalotta plugs myself, when did plugs start getting a bad reputation? Back in the late '80s (or so) there was no question a properly installed plug was going to be trouble-free for the life of the tire, there were very few I had to mess with ever again, and then only for a slow leak. Did the change the rubber compound, change the way the steel belts are laid, or did they start making the tire thinner? Dave >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Dave Plugs have never been considered a permanent repair for a tire. Even the companies that make them say that. The reason being that they cannot seal the inner liner properly. Does a plug work - Yes, IF installed properly and it is installed soon after a puncture. But it still isn't considered a proper repair unless you break the tire down and patch the inner liner. I have used a plug to get me home and I have plugged other peoples tires (if I was on the road without proper repair tools) so they could get to a tire shop. SignatureSteve W. > Having worked in a garage for a few years (and plugged more than a few > holes) and having driven on a heckufalotta plugs myself, when did > plugs start getting a bad reputation? When tire stores started losing business to people successfully plugging their tires at home themselves....??? :-p >> Having worked in a garage for a few years (and plugged more than a few >> holes) and having driven on a heckufalotta plugs myself, when did [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > :-p I worked in garage front ends when radial tires came out and we were forbidden from day one to use plugs in them, they were patch only because we were told the radial belting will work a plug and cut it and push it out. Plugs are/were only for bias ply tires. All the home use kits also say they are for temporary use only. We also were allowed to put a tube in them, bit it was a special expensive 'radial' tire tube that cost almost as much as a new tire. Didn't sell many of those... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com >>> Having worked in a garage for a few years (and plugged more than a few >>> holes) and having driven on a heckufalotta plugs myself, when did [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > because we were told the radial belting will work a plug and cut it and > push it out. But then the plug manufacturers went to a material that's darn hard to cut with a knife, just for that reason. > Plugs are/were only for bias ply tires. > > All the home use kits also say they are for temporary use only. I don't disagree philosophically. Patches are better than plugs. But I've seen plugs... in steel belted radials.... last the life of the tire. I was a broke college student once, y'know. :p > We also were allowed to put a tube in them, bit it was a special > expensive 'radial' tire tube that cost almost as much as a new tire. > Didn't sell many of those... Yuck. The tube "working" against the inside of the tire as the radial sidewalls flex can build up a lot of heat. I wouldn't do that under any circumstances. >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> Got a screw in my tire. Do you think this is repairable or is it too [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Would a plug hold up or should I get it patched? I don't like plugs for radials. We weren't allowed to use them to fix radials when I worked in garages. The new patches they have for that size/kind of hole come with a plug attached so it gets both now usually. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com > sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build > Photos:http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com According to Continental, the tire should be scrapped. Great. http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continental/automobile/themes/co ntiacademy/drivers_ed/tire_life_en.pdf >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continental/automobile/themes/co ntiacademy/drivers_ed/tire_life_en.pdf ???? That says replace it if it is ten years old, is it? Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com > sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build > Photos:http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continental/automobile/themes/co ntiacademy/drivers_ed/tire_repair_en.pdf Sorry Mike, I posted the wrong link. The one above is correct. <sonofabitchsky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:73dd3e09-59a2-4c43-9568- > http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/us/en/continental/automobile/themes/co ntiacademy/drivers_ed/tire_repair_en.pdf > > Sorry Mike, I posted the wrong link. The one above is correct. It is always better if you have brand new high quality rubber on your wheels....No question about it... But many millions of tires are repaired that fall outside their specifications and I would venture to say that the failure rate is extremely low. Companies like this are going to err on the side of caution...It is a "cover your a.s" world. I suggest that you take your tire to a reputable tire company and let one of their trained technicians venture an opinion. In any case, dont do it yourself if you dont know what you are doing. > <sonofabitchsky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:73dd3e09-59a2-4c43-9568- > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > In any case, dont do it yourself if you dont know what you are doing. I would have it patched (not plugged) and then I'd try to stay very aware of any changes in the feel of the tire that would indicate a tread or cord separation starting. If it is going to happen, it will probablyhappen within the first few hundered miles after the repair. >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Sorry Mike, I posted the wrong link. The one above is correct. I worked in garages for about 15 years and if that tire came in, we would have considered it a 'good' candidate for a patch because it has a nice clean hole still well on the tread area. If you take it to a good shop, they should think the same. That link implies says need a professionals input so the local burger flipper working part time at the local tire shop should be a good one to go ask. LOL! Just kidding, if you go to a shop and ask to have it patched they will patch it. If you go asking if it 'can' be patched, the burger flipper will sell you a tire, if he's good, two tires... Mike > sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Mike Gotcha. Thanks again for your input! > sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: > >> sonofabitch...@hotmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Mike Got it fixed. Patched for $20 incl rebalance. <sonofabitchsky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1bfac4b2-9921-4725-9dee- > Got it fixed. Patched for $20 incl rebalance. AHA! Reason has conquered propaganda.. Good on ya', son. >> That link implies says need a professionals input so the local burger >> flipper working part time at the local tire shop should be a good one to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Got it fixed. Patched for $20 incl rebalance. Thanks for the update! Mike >if that tire came in, we >would have considered it a 'good' candidate for a patch because it has a >nice clean hole still well on the tread area. I know sqrt(sod_all) about tyres. (I even spell it with a "y") However last time I looked, the basic rule was that you pulled the thing off the rim first and then looked where it emerged on the inside. That told you a lot more about which part of the reinforcement it had gone through than seeing the entry hole on the outside and trying to guess where it was pointing. |
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