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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2008

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1987 300E Thermostat stuck open

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Tube Audio - 10 Feb 2008 07:32 GMT
Hi

I have a funny feeling that my thermostat is stuck open and was wondering if
there is any simple test to determine if it is open?

I just drove home about 35 miles doing 70 mph on the freeway.  The gauge
never got above 60C, the weather here is 52F = 11C

I would expect the gauge to go up to at least 80 or 90C

Does the 197 300E run this cold or is the thermostat stuck open and the car
never heats up?

Thanks
Scott Dorsey - 10 Feb 2008 13:26 GMT
>I have a funny feeling that my thermostat is stuck open and was wondering if
>there is any simple test to determine if it is open?

Sure, but you have to take it out.  It will take you ten minutes to replace
the thing... just replace it and see if the problem is fixed.
--scott
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John S. - 10 Feb 2008 14:17 GMT
> Hi
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> Thanks

Sure.
1.  Check the temperature gauge.
2.  Immerse the thermostat in a pan of boiling water and check the
temp with a candy or similar thermometer.
Mike Romain - 10 Feb 2008 15:24 GMT
> Hi
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>
> Thanks

On lots of vehicles you can open the rad cap on a cold off engine, then
start it up and look inside.  If you have fluid flow right away, your
thermostat has failed.

I have seen an epidemic of failed open thermostats in the last couple
years, mine and our tenants' included.  More than I have seen in the
last 40 years.

Mike
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'New' frame in the works for '08.  Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
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Dave Allured - 10 Feb 2008 17:43 GMT
> Hi
>
> I have a funny feeling that my thermostat is stuck open and was wondering if
> there is any simple test to determine if it is open?

Idle the engine from cold start.  Feel the front center of the radiator
with your hand.  Stay away from the fan side, because electric fans will
start whenever they feel like it.  If the center of the radiator warms
up early, well before the gauge reaches the set point (85-95 C), then
your thermostat is stuck open.

I also like Mike's suggestion to look for flow in the top of the
radiator.  IMO sometimes that's not enough because of radiator geometry
or thermostat stuck partially open.  So do both; more info is generally
better when working on cars.

Oh yeah, you might have a bad temp gauge, but the chance of a bad
thermostat is a lot greater.

> I just drove home about 35 miles doing 70 mph on the freeway.  The gauge
> never got above 60C, the weather here is 52F = 11C
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> Does the 197 300E run this cold or is the thermostat stuck open and the car
> never heats up?

IIRC all modern car thermostats are at least 180F = 82C, so from your
gauge symptom alone, it is most likely the thermostat.  Does the heater
seem weak too, never doing a good job warming up the passenger
compartment?  That is more evidence for a bad thermostat.  If you know
you have a weak heater too, then more testing is probably not even
necessary.

--Dave
 
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