> When the roads, bridges, overpasses around get icey, they use sand.A
> month or two ago, I read an article somewhere on the internet that
> somebody is experimenting with using beet juice (I think the article
> said beet juice) for melting ice.
> cuhulin
Could be, cuhulin.. Beet juice contains sugars and other things which dont
freeze
as easily as pure water. It probably is not extremely efficient, but may be
cost
effective.
DJW - 26 Feb 2008 23:27 GMT
> <cuhu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
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> cost
> effective.
Yes I did here about something mundane to try to melt ice can't
remember either what it was. Any way the municipalities around here
are so short of salt because of the extreme use this winter they are
mixing with sand and not using unless absolutely necessary. The
hardware stores also are out of salt. They get it in and sell out
within an hour. They still have calcium chloride but that's a bit
pricy works to a lower temp but then summer is coming soon? Isn't
it????
Take a look at this link:
http://www.megagro.com/iceclear.htm?gclid=CNLOyoqA45ECFQVRMAodySNjXw
Anyway got to a repair shop today and got the trailing arms replaced
so bring on the potholes!
z - 27 Feb 2008 19:31 GMT
> <cuhu...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
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> cost
> effective.
some places have turned to spraying ethylene glycol for environmental
reasons. that can't be cheap.
HLS - 02 Mar 2008 15:29 GMT
"z" <gzuckier@snail-mail.net> wrote in message news:8584173b-0b44-4bf1-ae13-
some places have turned to spraying ethylene glycol for environmental
reasons. that can't be cheap.
That can be a deadly serious solution to a problem. Blends of ethylene
glycol
with other additives were used at the newish Gardermoen airport near Oslo,
Norway. The warm solution melts the ice sheets on the wings and other
parts,
but also conditions the film next to the metal so that newly forming ice can
"sheet" off.
They found that the glycol did not biodegrade effectively under those
conditions
and got into the ground water. Ethylene glycol has some toxicity problems,
and
to use it like this would be highly irresponsible and probably a violation
of the
environmental legislation in the USA.
cuhulin@webtv.net - 02 Mar 2008 17:40 GMT
That ethylene glycol stuff is also used in some antifreezes, isn't it?
Antifreeze is deadly to dogs and cats, if they drink any of it.I think I
read somewhere it has a sweet taste.When you change antifreeze/water
mix, don't let antifreeze be laying around where pets can get at it.
cuhulin