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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2008

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cuhulin@webtv.net - 05 Mar 2008 16:28 GMT
A neighbor across the street from me owns a 1995 Oldsmobile, 3900 Series
II engine.This morning, his car wont start.He said the battery is good
and the battery cables are clean and tight.The horn works and the little
warning beeper works.When he switches on the ignition, there is nothing
at all from the starter motor.What would likely be the reason his car
wont crank?
cuhulin
HLS - 05 Mar 2008 17:41 GMT
>A neighbor across the street from me owns a 1995 Oldsmobile, 3900 Series
> II engine.This morning, his car wont start.He said the battery is good
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> wont crank?
> cuhulin

I believe you mean 3800 Series II.
Find out if it is the starter system, or if the plenum has failed and the
cylinders
are full of water.
cuhulin@webtv.net - 05 Mar 2008 19:06 GMT
My keyboard made a typo, on top of the engine it says 3800 Series II.The
car is a Royale model.By plenum, do you mean the housing that contains
the air filter unit?

He doesn't have any ramps to put the car on and I don't own any ramps
either.He said he isn't going to crawl around under the car.As fat as I
have gotten over the years, that low to the ground car would need to be
on a two post lift for me to look under there.He knows a guy who works
at an auto repair shop.He phoned to guy and asked him to come over and
look at the car when he gets off work today
cuhulin
HLS - 05 Mar 2008 22:56 GMT
> My keyboard made a typo, on top of the engine it says 3800 Series II.The
> car is a Royale model.By plenum, do you mean the housing that contains
> the air filter unit?

No, that is not the unit I am talking about, cuhulin.  GM used a plastic
"manifold"
in this series, and it has a heat riser going through it.  These things
deteriorate, and
may fail without any notice.  They often set a code indicating multicylinder
misfire,
and may fill the cylinder with water, just like a blown head gasket or
cracked
head.  Concensus is that these things fail sooner or later.  Cure is to open
the engine
up, clean out the water if need be, install a new aftermarket plenum
(improved), and
button her back up.  Costs $350-$700, or in that range.

Be sure you have a charged battery, turn on the lights, and then try to
start
the car...
If you see a strong dimming effect, then the battery is pushing current to
the
starter, but the starter is not turning.   Could be a number of things,
including
hydraulic lock of the engine.  But you should really be able to HEAR this.

If no dimming effect, then you may have a bad connection (high resistance)
somewhere in the starter circuit, a bad solenoid maybe, or a bad/open
starter.
cuhulin@webtv.net - 06 Mar 2008 19:28 GMT
I woke up about at 8:00 AM this morning.(little doggy, she was slurping
my ear out, to take her out in the front yard) I noticed my neighbor's
1995 Oldsmobile isn't in his yard over there.I guess he got it going,
somehow.The car isn't over there now.I hope that car didn't quit on him
out somewhere.I don't know how to work on those new fangled
contraptions.
Call me dumb, but I still don't get it about the plenum thingy.
cuhulin
aarcuda69062 - 06 Mar 2008 20:08 GMT
> I woke up about at 8:00 AM this morning.(little doggy, she was slurping
> my ear out, to take her out in the front yard) I noticed my neighbor's
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> cuhulin    
>  

The plenum thingy;

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Tegger - 07 Mar 2008 01:03 GMT
>> I woke up about at 8:00 AM this morning.(little doggy, she was slurping
>> my ear out, to take her out in the front yard) I noticed my neighbor's
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cuhulin@webtv.net - 07 Mar 2008 19:37 GMT
Neighbor guy across the street from me also owns a nice 2004 (I think he
said it is a 2004) Chevrolet Impala car.About two months ago, he took it
to a shop and he paid about $400.00 or more, something about an
electronic security lock thingy to be fixed.

Hooo weee, Ahab the Arab, I don't need anything like that!
In 1963, at SL60 Nike Missiles Base near Pacific,Missouri, there was a
guy who owned a baby blue 1958 two door hard top Chevrolet Impala.I used
to drool over that car.I want one of those cars!
cuhulin
cuhulin@webtv.net - 06 Mar 2008 20:16 GMT
Neighbor guy showed up over there about ten minutes ago in his 1995 blue
Oldsmobile car.He said when the guy showed up over there yesterday
evening, the car started right up.He said he said the igniion switch is
going bad, it might work the next ten or fifteen years, you got to play
with it.(the key in the ignition switch)
cuhulin
clifto - 05 Mar 2008 19:41 GMT
> A neighbor across the street from me owns a 1995 Oldsmobile, 3900 Series
> II engine.This morning, his car wont start.He said the battery is good
> and the battery cables are clean and tight.The horn works and the little
> warning beeper works.When he switches on the ignition, there is nothing
> at all from the starter motor.What would likely be the reason his car
> wont crank?

Have him turn on the headlights and then crank, then tell us whether the
headlights dim or remain unchanged while he's got the key on START.

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