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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2008The Best Car in World Today
The Best Car in World Today Trully the best and fastest sedan I have ever owned. Any sedan in the mid 50s that can get from 0-60 in 5.5 seconds in my book is far above average. My 535 handles extremely well and performs every bit as well as advertised. I highly recommend this car to any one. I am a car person who has rebuilt a muscle car and owned many great cars in my 63 years. This is probably the best car in the world today. http://autourl.org/cars/2008-bmw-5-series.html > The Best Car in World Today > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://autourl.org/cars/2008-bmw-5-series.html The crown "Best Car in The World" will have to be a big one because it will have to somehow address the needs of all car owners to be the best of all in the world. Although I can't honestly think of one car that meets all of those criteria I can certainly think of cars that go a long way toward meeting criteria for certain kinds of driving. > The Best Car in World Today > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://autourl.org/cars/2008-bmw-5-series.html Wildly overpriced, ridiculously over complicated, poor reliability...yeah "Best Car in the World" if you are made of money. What makes it better than a Accord, Camry, Fusion for people of moderate means? The next time I am in Germany and get a chance to drive on the Autobahn, I'd love to rent one. For cruising around North Carolina, I'll save my money. Ed > Wildly overpriced, ridiculously over complicated, poor reliability...yeah > "Best Car in the World" if you are made of money. What makes it better [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ed I think they are attractive cars, and probably have very good engines and transmissions. As they age, I have seen them have paint and body integrity deterioration, which is a little sad on a car like this. The last time I looked at a Consumers Report rating (which, I readily admit is not rock solid information), the 500 and 700 series BMWs were rather disappointing. If I was made of money, I would buy a new Maserati car. cuhulin > If I was made of money, I would buy a new Maserati car. > cuhulin You might really regret that, cuhulin, although they can be beautiful things. A friend bought one a few years ago, and it spent two weeks in the shop for every week he drove it. Similar to helicopter maintenance. I understand that Ferraris are very tough and dependable (surprising for an Italian car), but when you do have to take them to the shop, it costs you ><cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message >> If I was made of money, I would buy a new Maserati car. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >A friend bought one a few years ago, and it spent two weeks in the shop for >every week he drove it. Similar to helicopter maintenance. My mechanic works on them, and I occasionally see one in his shop. I had never seen a car where you had to pull the engine to get to one of the coolant hoses before. --scott You know, it's really nice leaving my car there, because I know if somebody is going to steal something from his lot, it's NOT going to be my 30-year-old BMW with the primer all over it.  Signature"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." My Maserati (I wish) does 185,,, I lost my license,,, now I do not drivvveee,,,,,, cuhulin > My Maserati (I wish) does 185,,, I lost my license,,, now I do not > drivvveee,,,,,, > cuhulin My ex and I were driving up IH59 from Houston one afternoon when a young man passed us in a new yellow Biturbo. He was zipping along, changing lanes like a madman, weaving his way through the rest of us OF drivers, top down, just having a great time. Up near Livingston, young man ran into Highway Patrol, and stationary radar outran his 185 mph Maserati. Such are the mundane experiences that deflate the exuberance of youth ;>) Whats the name of that high speed highway in Houston? I think the name of it starts with K I had to dive off of that highway.I can't drive that fast. cuhulin > Whats the name of that high speed highway in Houston? I think the name > of it starts with K > > I had to dive off of that highway.I can't drive that fast. > cuhulin There is no high speed highway in Houston, at least legally. Beltway 8 or Sam Houston Parkway is one of the ones that is most abused. I drive 65 and am the slowest traffic on the parkway. People pass me at 90 MPH and more. I have driven in the 140-150 mph range, but not with turdheads and secretaries >Trully the best and fastest sedan I have ever owned. Any sedan in the >mid 50s that can get from 0-60 in 5.5 seconds in my book is far above >average. My 535 handles extremely well and performs every bit as well >as advertised. I highly recommend this car to any one. I am a car >person who has rebuilt a muscle car and owned many great cars in my 63 >years. This is probably the best car in the world today. No way. My 1983 535i is much better. For one thing, it's paid for. Secondly it doesn't have all that electronic crap to break. --scott Signature"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." > The Best Car in World Today > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > http://autourl.org/cars/2008-bmw-5-series.html last time consumer reports tested a bmw 5 series, i recall they declared it the best car they ever tested. > > The Best Car in World Today > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > last time consumer reports tested a bmw 5 series, i recall they > declared it the best car they ever tested. went back to check my memory; that was the 2001 530i that was the best car they ever tested. when they tested the 2004 with the idrive, it began to sag: "The redesigned BMW 530i replaces the model that was CR's best car tested for two years. This new version has slightly improved fuel economy and rear-seat room. But these gains are offset by the complicated iDrive multifunction control system and less-agile handling. The BMW has a stronger powertrain than the Mercedes-Benz E320 but doesn't match the E320's balance of ride comfort and agility. Overall, the 530i is an excellent car, but it doesn't live up to the high expectations set by its predecessor. " >>>The Best Car in World Today >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Overall, the 530i is an excellent car, but it doesn't live up to the > high expectations set by its predecessor. " Personally I think BMW has been on a downhill slope since the 80's. Obviously customers disagree as I see more BMW's on the road now than ever before (or maybe it's just the area I live in?) but personally I'm not interested in iDrive, electronic this, power assisted that, etc. I just want a quality built sport sedan that is fun to drive and has a modicum of luxury (leather seats, high quality interior materials, etc.) I had an '86 535i for a while and loved it, the only reason I got rid of it was it was ragged out, but even that car was starting to see some insidious over-gadgetization, to its detriment (e.g. my temperature gauge didn't work because it was tied to the service interval indicator; the little warning center that would tell you when a bulb was burned out was always blinking at me, etc.) Now if you could find me an old 3.0CSL I'd be a happy camper... nate Signaturereplace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel >> "The redesigned BMW 530i replaces the model that was CR's best car >> tested for two years. This new version has slightly improved fuel [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >the little warning center that would tell you when a bulb was burned out >was always blinking at me, etc.) I have an '85 535i right now, and it is a fun car to drive. It has some weirdness, and it wasn't treated very well by the original owner and it has been a nightmare for me to fix some of their stupidity, but it's a fun car to drive. The new 535i isn't a fun car to drive. It's plenty fast and plenty roomy, but it feels like it's designed for the passenger rather than the driver. If anything, it feels more like an old Mercedes than an old BMW. I won't even mention the explosion of electronics, which I predict to be a time bomb waiting to go off. >Now if you could find me an old 3.0CSL I'd be a happy camper... There's one for sale in the latest club newsletter. The price might be crazy, though. Would you settle for a 2002? It's really the most fun car I ever owned. --scott Incidentally, your temperature gauge issue probably had to do with the battery in the instrument panel. It's a half-hour total to get the thing out, desolder the battery, and solder a new one in. And the brake light indicator either was the result of the current sense relays in the box in the trunk going bad, or the stupid metal plate contacts on the tail lights going bad. Parts for all of these are readily available and not too expensive. The BMWs from that era did suffer from a lot of electronic problems caused by cold solder joints. I can't even IMAGINE what will happen to the new ones in twenty years, what with all the RoHS crap. Signature"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." > >> "The redesigned BMW 530i replaces the model that was CR's best car > >> tested for two years. This new version has slightly improved fuel [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > crazy, though. Would you settle for a 2002? It's really the most fun > car I ever owned. Possibly, although right now the only way I could purchase one is if someone would take a non-running Corrado in trade. And SWMBO would kill me if I traded her PITA car for something even older... I just like the 3.0 because a) I like big engines and b) it's just a pretty damn shape, unlike the 2002 which the best you can say about it is it's "cute." I did, however, show SWMBO a picture of a '59 Lark that a guy I know has for sale, with a 454/THM400 stuffed into it and she responded positively to that, so who knows what she'd like? > Incidentally, your temperature gauge issue probably had to do with the > battery in the instrument panel. It's a half-hour total to get the thing [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Yup, I did that dance - put new batteries in the service indicator and even velcroed a little two-AA battery box behind the instrument panel, still didn't work. The taillights filled up with water regularly, so that is probably why I was having issues with those. The nail in the coffin was when I had the engine replaced (spun a rod bearing after a high speed run back from Pittsburgh) and something got screwed up so that the car would just die after about 20 min. of driving and wouldn't restart until it cooled down. I sold it cheap to a kid who had a family friend that was a "good BMW mechanic." Some days I miss that car, but only the times when it was actually running. It still had TRXes on it as well, and for some reason I seemed to have a real issue finding a tire store that would sell me 14" tires for it. (I did have a set of 14" wheels from an older car that I'd bought for cheap.) I never did replace the tires because the engine replacement happened very shortly before I was planning a move to VA so I just unloaded it rather than deal with all the headaches and moving at the same time. The other major issue I had with the car was having to replace the driver's side door lock assembly as it started locking me out of the car as soon as I'd unlock it; fortunately I had a little experience with DIY locksmithing so I was able to fix it without having to pay for anything but the lock cylinder. nate >Personally I think BMW has been on a downhill slope since the 80's. >Obviously customers disagree as I see more BMW's on the road now than >ever before (or maybe it's just the area I live in?) It's the same here and more of them does indicate they've gone down the LCD slope to making cars more for the herd. > but personally I'm >not interested in iDrive, electronic this, power assisted that, etc. I >just want a quality built sport sedan that is fun to drive and has a >modicum of luxury (leather seats, high quality interior materials, etc.) That is part of what is turning me off wrt the 135i.
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