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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2008

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M.M. - 19 Mar 2008 03:36 GMT
I'm planning to replace pads & rotors on my mother's 2000 Acura TL this
weekend. I've done lots of disk brakes but never on an Acura. Anything
special I should be aware of? Thanks...
BobJ - 19 Mar 2008 17:08 GMT
> I'm planning to replace pads & rotors on my mother's 2000 Acura TL this
> weekend. I've done lots of disk brakes but never on an Acura. Anything
> special I should be aware of? Thanks...

Nothing out of the ordinary... In fact very easy.. (Rear
calipers have to be wound in to install the new pads)
M.M. - 20 Mar 2008 00:42 GMT
>> I'm planning to replace pads & rotors on my mother's 2000 Acura TL
>> this weekend. I've done lots of disk brakes but never on an Acura.
>> Anything special I should be aware of? Thanks...
>
> Nothing out of the ordinary... In fact very easy.. (Rear calipers have
> to be wound in to install the new pads)

Thanks for the info. As long as I can get out the screws that hold the
front rotor to the hub I think I should be in good shape. I'll probably
tackle it tomorrow...
Tegger - 20 Mar 2008 03:00 GMT
>>> I'm planning to replace pads & rotors on my mother's 2000 Acura TL
>>> this weekend. I've done lots of disk brakes but never on an Acura.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> front rotor to the hub I think I should be in good shape. I'll probably
> tackle it tomorrow...

If you live in an area that has snow, removal of those little screws will
probably do zero good in removing the rotors.

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AZ Nomad - 20 Mar 2008 06:01 GMT
>>>> I'm planning to replace pads & rotors on my mother's 2000 Acura TL
>>>> this weekend. I've done lots of disk brakes but never on an Acura.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> front rotor to the hub I think I should be in good shape. I'll probably
>> tackle it tomorrow...

>If you live in an area that has snow, removal of those little screws will
>probably do zero good in removing the rotors.

The rotors don't tend to weld themselves so bad that a good smack with a
large hammer won't loosen them.  

The bigger problem are the screws.  An impact driver is the tool for the
job.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_driver
M.M. - 20 Mar 2008 06:22 GMT
> The rotors don't tend to weld themselves so bad that a good smack with a
> large hammer won't loosen them.  
>
> The bigger problem are the screws.  An impact driver is the tool for the
> job.  

Yep, I have one...and a big hammer...and we don't get much snow down
here in AZ so hopefully it won't be to difficult.

Now I find out that it's due for a timing belt (3.2L V6)...not sure I
want to tackle that...
Tegger - 20 Mar 2008 12:34 GMT
"M.M." <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:HwmEj.72774$497.23456
@newsfe14.phx:

>> The rotors don't tend to weld themselves so bad that a good smack with a
>> large hammer won't loosen them.  
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Yep, I have one...and a big hammer

Don't use a big hammer.

If the rotors won't come off easily, ask here for a non-destructive
technique that uses an 8oz (half pound) ball-peen hammer.

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M.M. - 20 Mar 2008 16:34 GMT
> If the rotors won't come off easily, ask here for a non-destructive
> technique that uses an 8oz (half pound) ball-peen hammer.

Please share...
Tegger - 21 Mar 2008 03:00 GMT
"M.M." <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:UtvEj.72791$497.19542
@newsfe14.phx:

>> If the rotors won't come off easily, ask here for a non-destructive
>> technique that uses an 8oz (half pound) ball-peen hammer.
>
> Please share...

After raising the car, securing it and removing the road wheel, do this:
1) Get an 8oz ball peen hammer. That's a half-pounder; a little guy.
2) Remove caliper and its mount bracket.
3) With ball end of hammer, tap on the side of the "top hat", about as
hard as you'd vigorously knock on a door. Maybe a bit harder
4) Tap as close to the friction surface as you can, to make sure your
blows are as far away from the hub as possible. You will damage the
friction surface with occasional misaimed whacks, but you're replacing
the rotor anyway.
5) Turn the rotor and keep tapping. Turn and tap, working your way
around the "top hat".
6) Eventually (a minute or less), you'll start to hear and see rust
breaking up and falling out the bottom of the rotor.
7) Keep tapping and turning.
8) At some point, you should be able to make the rotor move by wiggling
it with your hands. Find out where it's still stuck, and concentrate
your hammering there.
9) Once it's loose enough, THEN you hit the rotor from the back, to
drive it off the hub.

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M.M. - 21 Mar 2008 03:20 GMT
> After raising the car, securing it and removing the road wheel, do this:
> ...

Thanks but it turns out I didn't need the hammer at all. The screws came
out with one hit on the impact tool and both rotors came off with one
pull. It was a very easy job, as one of the other responders said. I
guess not living in snow/ice/salt country makes a difference.
Tegger - 21 Mar 2008 03:32 GMT
"M.M." <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:oXEEj.23230$CD7.21387
@newsfe11.phx:

>> After raising the car, securing it and removing the road wheel, do this:
>> ...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> pull. It was a very easy job, as one of the other responders said. I
> guess not living in snow/ice/salt country makes a difference.

As a prisoner of the Rust Belt, I hate all Arizonans on principle.

Nobody who has suspension parts that still retain their factory paint after
eight years should be allowed to live.

Sorry, I'm just feeling sorry for myself... :(

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AZ Nomad - 21 Mar 2008 04:16 GMT
>"M.M." <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:oXEEj.23230$CD7.21387
>@newsfe11.phx:

>>> After raising the car, securing it and removing the road wheel, do this:
>>> ...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> pull. It was a very easy job, as one of the other responders said. I
>> guess not living in snow/ice/salt country makes a difference.

>As a prisoner of the Rust Belt, I hate all Arizonans on principle.

At least you can leave a car outside without it becoming too hot
to touch.

Also car batteries only last 3 years before being killed by the heat.
Tegger - 20 Mar 2008 12:32 GMT
>>>>> I'm planning to replace pads & rotors on my mother's 2000 Acura TL
>>>>> this weekend. I've done lots of disk brakes but never on an Acura.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> The rotors don't tend to weld themselves so bad that a good smack with
> a large hammer won't loosen them.

Yes they do. Oh, yes they do!

And when they do, it's a SMALL 8oz hammer which corrects that, when applied
just the right way.

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AZ Nomad - 20 Mar 2008 13:40 GMT
>>>>>> I'm planning to replace pads & rotors on my mother's 2000 Acura TL
>>>>>> this weekend. I've done lots of disk brakes but never on an Acura.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> The rotors don't tend to weld themselves so bad that a good smack with
>> a large hammer won't loosen them.

>Yes they do. Oh, yes they do!

>And when they do, it's a SMALL 8oz hammer which corrects that, when applied
>just the right way.

First you say that rotors tend to weld themselves so
bad that a good smack with a large hammer won't loosen them.
Then you say the opposite that even a small hammer will loosen them.

What are you trying to say?
Tegger - 21 Mar 2008 03:03 GMT
>>>>>>> I'm planning to replace pads & rotors on my mother's 2000 Acura
>>>>>>> TL this weekend. I've done lots of disk brakes but never on an
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> What are you trying to say?

Both things at once. For different reasons. Brute force does less in
this case than judiciously applied light shocks.

After raising the car, securing it and removing the road wheel, do this:
1) Get an 8oz ball peen hammer. That's a half-pounder; a little guy.
2) Remove caliper and its mount bracket.
3) With ball end of hammer, tap on the side of the "top hat", about as
hard as you'd vigorously knock on a door. Maybe a bit harder
4) Tap as close to the friction surface as you can, to make sure your
blows are as far away from the hub as possible. You will damage the
friction surface with occasional misaimed whacks, but you're replacing
the rotor anyway.
5) Turn the rotor and keep tapping. Turn and tap, working your way
around the "top hat".
6) Eventually (a minute or less), you'll start to hear and see rust
breaking up and falling out the bottom of the rotor.
7) Keep tapping and turning.
8) At some point, you should be able to make the rotor move by wiggling
it with your hands. Find out where it's still stuck, and concentrate
your hammering there.
9) Once it's loose enough, THEN you hit the rotor from the back, to
drive it off the hub.

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