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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2008

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tires older than 6 years old could kill you

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boxing@sasktel.net - 10 May 2008 08:38 GMT
check the date of manufacture on your tires. If there is a number on a
tire say 434 (the last number after a long list of numbers and
letters) then the tire was manufactired in the 43rd week of 1994 if
the number is 2505 then the tire was manufactured in the 25th week of
2005. According to ABC news 20/20 any tire older than 6 years old
could separate and you could lose control of your vehicle and be
killed.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/popup?id=4819387
Kruse - 10 May 2008 22:10 GMT
On May 10, 3:38 am, box...@sasktel.net wrote:
According to ABC news 20/20 any tire older than 6 years old
> could separate and you could lose control of your vehicle and be
> killed.

Maybe so.
It is also my belief that any NEW tire could separate and kill you.
Didn't some Chinese-built
tires have a recall recently?
Actually, I stopped believing in national news about the time when NBC
did their show on the
Chevy pickup tanks that explode every time they get hit in the side.
(For you guys with short memories,
this is where NBC actually staged these explosions with a little help
from Estes toy rocket engines)
Let see now. I also remember when CBS's Dan Blather read the military
review on George Bush that
turned out to be a hilarious hoax. I'm not sure what ABC has pulled
and really don't care.

BTW, were there any tire advertisements during this show? Think about
it..........
Nate Nagel - 10 May 2008 22:31 GMT
> On May 10, 3:38 am, box...@sasktel.net wrote:
>  According to ABC news 20/20 any tire older than 6 years old
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> BTW, were there any tire advertisements during this show? Think about
> it..........

I think that tire mfgrs. actually do recommend time-based replacement at
the 6-10 year mark, but I've never had a set last that long.  now there
are some tires on the truck that were on it when I bought it; no idea
how old those are but it doesn't get driven much, or particularly fast.
 If I were to go on a long trip with a load, I might consider replacing
them.

Also, buying tires from recognized brands (right now, I've got Yokohamas
on the Porsche, Michelins on the truck, and Dunlop snow tires on the
extra Porsche rims) is never a bad plan.  yes, I do recall the Chinese
tire thing, I think it was a missing bonding strip or something?  But I
remember when I read the article that it seemed like these were only
sold as off-brands.

nate

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* - 16 May 2008 15:05 GMT
n/m
John S. - 16 May 2008 17:26 GMT
> n/m

Does n/m stand for Not Mature?  Just a guess...
* - 17 May 2008 14:41 GMT
John S. <hjsjms@cs.com> wrote in article
<3a1b1cd2-686e-4396-aac2-67dced7a8066@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>...
On May 16, 10:05 am, "*" <nos...@this.addy.com> wrote:
> n/m

Does n/m stand for Not Mature?  Just a guess...

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Believe what you wish, but at least I can read the newspapers and tire
trade publications that outlined the practice of certain Chinese tire
builders of NOT including the bonding layer between the tread and carcass
which caused NEW tires to come apart at Interstate speeds.

I thought most intelligent people realized that n/m stood for "no message",
but I guess I failed to account for the non-intelligent.
cuhulin@webtv.net - 17 May 2008 15:14 GMT
Those old Maypop (there actually is a used tires place near me and they
used to have a big sign there which said Maypop Used Tires) tires on my
van must have been older than sin untill I finally broke down and I
bought a new set of Cooper tires.Those Cooper tires will probally
outlast me now, because I hardly ever drive anywhere anymore.I would
never buy any tires made in China.
cuhulin
John S. - 18 May 2008 23:16 GMT
> John S. <hjs...@cs.com> wrote in article
> <3a1b1cd2-686e-4396-aac2-67dced7a8...@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> I thought most intelligent people realized that n/m stood for "no message",
> but I guess I failed to account for the non-intelligent.

After having posted a message with no content and reading your
response it would appear both Not Mature and No Message still apply.
Saab C900 Viggenist - 16 May 2008 22:39 GMT
>n/m

Are they exploding tyres made with gunpowder impregnated into the rubber?
8-)

Craig.

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Scott Dorsey - 11 May 2008 13:19 GMT
>check the date of manufacture on your tires. If there is a number on a
>tire say 434 (the last number after a long list of numbers and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>killed.
>http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/popup?id=4819387

Where does that six year number come from?  Somebody just pulled it out
of a hat, that's where.

I have seen tread separation on tires that were poorly stored, in much
less than six years.  I have also seen tires much older with no separation
issues.

What you want to see is a plot of the separation incident rate versus the
age of the tires so you can make an informed decision for yourself rather
than just taking a scalar number from a reporter.

In addition, if you are driving older tires, or even if you are driving
brand new tires, you should inspect your tires whenever you check the air
pressure, which should be pretty often.  Pay attention to how the car
drives.  Often with tire problems you will get a good bit of warning that
something is wrong, but too many drivers just ignore the signs and keep
driving.
--scott

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Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 12 May 2008 03:31 GMT
> check the date of manufacture on your tires. If there is a number on a
> tire say 434 (the last number after a long list of numbers and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> killed.
> http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/popup?id=4819387

The only tire I've ever had that self destructed spectacularly was
relatively new. Probably about 3 or 4 years old with about 30K miles on
it. It did so at 70 MPH on an SUV. It didn't kill me. In fact, it wasn't
that big a deal to pull over onto the shoulder.

Sure, an old tire may be more likely to blow out than a new one. But if
you don't panic, its no big deal. So I'm going to run them down to
minimum tread depth. As long as I keep them properly inflated and
rotated and check them for bumps, I don't care how old they get.

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John S. - 12 May 2008 16:23 GMT
On May 10, 3:38 am, box...@sasktel.net wrote:
> check the date of manufacture on your tires. If there is a number on a
> tire say 434 (the last number after a long list of numbers and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> could separate and you could lose control of your vehicle and be
> killed.http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/popup?id=4819387

That show is long decoding tire manufacture date and woefully short on
information actually showing a correlation between age and dangerous
deterioration.  It's sensationalist reporting that I would expect to
see on the cover of a National Enquirer and not from ABC News.
 
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