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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2008

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GM3400 - crank sensor is loose!

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zirconx9@yahoo.com - 15 May 2008 05:43 GMT
I have a 92 Chevy Lumina APV van with the 3400 thats is giving me
trouble.

The van died on me out of town, and the shop I found, as part of their
diagnostics, replaced the crankshaft sensor. It didn't help, so they
put the old one back in. The problem ended up being something with the
ignition, the part thats under the coils I think.

Anyway as soon as I left their shop, I noticed a very slight ticking
that I had never heard before. I had the mechanic come out and listen
to it, and of course he thought I was crazy that I could hear some
"ticking" over a noisy 150K mile GM engine.

That was about 6 months ago. Recently the noise has gotten louder and
once in a while the engine would "hicup" or hesitate for just a
second. Now it will sometimes stall, and not always run right away
again. I thought it was the timing chain but listening/looking at it
again tonight I see the plug that plugs into the crank sensor - and
its just bouncing all over the place! I think the sensor is just

So the shop must have not adjusted the sensor correctly when
reinstalling. I'm hoping someone here has experience with the
crankshaft sensor and can tell me - can it just vibrate loose, or do
you think its been pushed completely out of its socket, ruining the
threads on the block? Do you think the sensor is probably ruined?

I know, its hard to guess without taking it all apart, but maybe
someone that knows what this sensor is like and how its mounted might
have an idea. Its probably going to cost me $100+ just to have it
looked at, then a few hundred more if I have the sensor replaced... so
I'm debating just junking the van, its 16 years old now.

-thanks
MasterBlaster - 15 May 2008 06:25 GMT
> I have a 92 Chevy Lumina APV van with the 3400 thats is giving me
> trouble.
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> someone that knows what this sensor is like and how its mounted might
> have an idea.

According to Rockauto, this is what your sensor looks like:
http://info.rockauto.com/SMP/SMPDetail2.html?PC7.jpg

Seems like it just sits in a hole, with a small bolt going through the metal
tab at the top to hold it in place. If the bolt is missing, the sensor can
wiggle around, confusing the computer. Of course, if the bolt is still
there, and it's the plug or the sensor that's broken and flopping around,
then it's new parts time. If you can easily reach it, you shouldn't have
any trouble replacing either the bolt or the sensor yourself.
zirconx9@yahoo.com - 15 May 2008 15:35 GMT
Thanks for the pic.  I'm hoping the "ticking" just vibrated the bolt
loose, and thats all it needs.  I think the harmonic balancer needs to
be removed to get to the bolt, so I'll still need to take it to the
shop.  I talked to them this morning and they said its just over an
hour labor to remove/install the sensor, so thats not too bad.  I just
hope it didn't damage anything inside the engine.
 
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