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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / May 2008

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Anyone remember Gasohol? Is it the same as E-10?

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J - 29 May 2008 18:56 GMT
Back in the 1970's when Jimmy Carter was president we had a similar gas
situation to what we have now. The industry came out with "gasohol" which
was a blend of alcohol made from corn, and gasoline. It destroyed fuel pumps
on many an automobile including mine. Is E-10 gas the same thing as gasohol?

I began using E-10 a few months ago in my 1994 Chevy Corsica and I recently
had to have the fuel pump replaced at a cost of over $300.00. The exact same
thing happened in 1979 when I began using gasohol in my 69 Camaro. Back
then, the mechanic told me that if you begin using gasohol after using
regular gas for a long time it would eat the fuel pump, but that if you use
gasohol on a brand new fuel pump it would never be a problem. It looks like
he may have been right.

Any comments/similar experiences?
boxing@sasktel.net - 29 May 2008 19:38 GMT
i have heard that the ethanol cleans everything. so the dirty fuel
tank gets cleaned and the dirt gets sent through to the fuel pump,
fuel filter and carborator, causing havoc all the way through. For
many years I used mohawk gas which was bought out by husky, but they
still have 10% ethanol.  i have heard also that if you use 10% ethanol
from the start its no problem, its switching to 10% ethanol that
causes the problem. A fuel pump for a 1979 vehicle is $24.00. A fuel
pump for a 1994 will be $300.00. that's sort of a problem. I hope you
bought a new filter also.
http://www.huskyenergy.ca/ourproducts/ethanol/
Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 29 May 2008 19:46 GMT
> Back in the 1970's when Jimmy Carter was president we had a similar gas
> situation to what we have now. The industry came out with "gasohol" which
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> Any comments/similar experiences?

Many vehicles built back in the 70s had problems with ethanol. It
attacked rubber and plastic components and, if it picked up water, that
could cause corrosion problems with certain metal alloys.

E-10 is essentially the same stuff. What has changed between now and
then are the materials used in vehicles. If you have a car of 1960s or
1970s vintage and have not upgraded parts in the fuel system, you may
still have problems.

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* - 30 May 2008 16:22 GMT
J <durhambusdriver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in article
<j7C%j.3103$co7.2003@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com>...
> Back in the 1970's when Jimmy Carter was president we had a similar gas
> situation to what we have now. The industry came out with "gasohol" which

> was a blend of alcohol made from corn, and gasoline. It destroyed fuel pumps
> on many an automobile including mine. Is E-10 gas the same thing as gasohol?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Any comments/similar experiences?

The earlier "gasohol" used methyl alcohol - or methanol - which is quite
corrosive to aluminum fuel system components. It is also quite poisonous.

We used methanol racing fuel back in the late '60s, and we would shut the
fuel off, and allow the engine to idle until the fuel system ran dry
whenever we shut the engine off.

Ethyl alcohol - or Ethanol - is more like whiskey, and can be consumed
without serious side effects - .unless, of course, you consider drunkeness
to be serious.
HLS - 30 May 2008 18:11 GMT
"*" <nospam@this.addy.com> wrote in message news:01c8c268$efec7ea0
> Ethyl alcohol - or Ethanol - is more like whiskey, and can be consumed
> without serious side effects - .unless, of course, you consider drunkeness
> to be serious.

Been there, done that ;>)
Scott Dorsey - 30 May 2008 20:44 GMT
>Ethyl alcohol - or Ethanol - is more like whiskey, and can be consumed
>without serious side effects - .unless, of course, you consider drunkeness
>to be serious.

Precisely.  You can think of E85 as being a sort of petroleum martini.
--scott

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