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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2009

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95 Blazer, No Rear Brakes

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zwickl2@frontiernet.net - 28 Oct 2009 03:16 GMT
Hi, I have a 95 Chevy Blazer that had a brake line going to the back
of the truck rust out. In the process, the brake warning light came
on. I replace the brake line running to back of the truck, the
distribution block at the rear axle, and the lines running to the
wheel cylinders. I ended up replacing the rear wheel cylinders because
the bleeders were rusted in. I bleed the rear brakes. No air appears
to be coming out of the bleeders any more. The brake pedal is firm but
lower than before, but the brake warning light is still on and I have
no rear brake pressure. Is it possible that the combination valve is
stuck or frozen? Could I still have air in the rear brake system?
twisted - 28 Oct 2009 03:55 GMT
Probably still have air in the lines.
Ashton Crusher - 28 Oct 2009 04:03 GMT
>Hi, I have a 95 Chevy Blazer that had a brake line going to the back
>of the truck rust out. In the process, the brake warning light came
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>no rear brake pressure. Is it possible that the combination valve is
>stuck or frozen? Could I still have air in the rear brake system?

Does it have ABS?  If so it may be one of those systems that can only
be properly bleed by hooking up a computer to it to make the ABS
valves open up and purge air.
twisted - 28 Oct 2009 04:57 GMT
> Does it have ABS?  If so it may be one of those systems that can only
> be properly bleed by hooking up a computer to it to make the ABS
> valves open up and purge air.

Don't have to on this.
zwickl2@frontiernet.net - 28 Oct 2009 12:58 GMT
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:16:10 -0700 (PDT), zwic...@frontiernet.net
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> be properly bleed by hooking up a computer to it to make the ABS
> valves open up and purge air.

Yes, vehicle has K-H 4WAL ABS system, I do not believe that air was
introduced upstream into the ABS system.
Steve W. - 28 Oct 2009 19:04 GMT
>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:16:10 -0700 (PDT), zwic...@frontiernet.net
>> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Yes, vehicle has K-H 4WAL ABS system, I do not believe that air was
> introduced upstream into the ABS system.

If the line broke and you lost all the fluid air got into the system.
And you do need a scan tool to cycle the ABS system during bleeding.

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zwickl2@frontiernet.net - 02 Nov 2009 14:11 GMT
Problem solved. I bleed more air out of the rear brake lines using a
pressure bleeder setup instead of manual pumping of the brake pedal. I
also readjusted the brake shoes tighter after fixing the seized brake
shoe adjusters. I had rear brakes then but the brake warning light was
still on. I had an assistant sit in the truck and push down on firmly
in the brake pedal while tapping on the side of the combination valve.
No change. I started the engine and repeated. The brake warning light
finally went off due to the extra brake pressure from the vacuum power
brake booster.
twisted - 03 Nov 2009 02:17 GMT
On Nov 2, 9:11 am, zwic...@frontiernet.net wrote:
>due to the extra brake pressure from the vacuum power
> brake booster.

Power brake boosters do not change pressure. The light went out do to
the air being out of the system and the ABS solenoids cycled/set when
you turned the key on.
Mike Romain - 28 Oct 2009 13:09 GMT
> Hi, I have a 95 Chevy Blazer that had a brake line going to the back
> of the truck rust out. In the process, the brake warning light came
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> no rear brake pressure. Is it possible that the combination valve is
> stuck or frozen? Could I still have air in the rear brake system?

If it is the combo valve, you can usually untrip the switch by pumping
it up, holding it down 'hard' and opening a front bleeder.  This makes
the combo valve trip towards the front usually opening up the back for
use and another bleed to get the rest of the air out.

Mike
2000 Cherokee Sport
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame and everything else in '09.  Some Canadian Bush Trip and
Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
m6onz5a - 28 Oct 2009 15:11 GMT
On Oct 27, 10:16 pm, zwic...@frontiernet.net wrote:
> Hi, I have a 95 Chevy Blazer that had a brake line going to the back
> of the truck rust out. In the process, the brake warning light came
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> no rear brake pressure. Is it possible that the combination valve is
> stuck or frozen? Could I still have air in the rear brake system?

I remember someone telling that when you bleed the brakes with ABS
just let the brake pedal go down until the brake light goes out.
 
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