>Robin <rdlax@hotmail.com> wrote in article
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>Be aware that, on an annual basis, 25% of ASE certifications are
>intentionally NOT renewed by people who remain in the industry.
And if you own your shop or aren't worried about looking for a job,
etc.. There is mostly no reason to...
>Many technicians nowadays feel that the ASE certification is nothing more
>than a money-making scheme - which many technicians pay for out of their
>own pocket - that fails to really benefit them in any tangible way.
They are overpriced... But they do serve a purpose.. It's just
another credential, but it makes hiring a little easier for service
managers. Lets say one technician has A1-A8, L1 and a couple of years
of experience.. Another has been working at various jobs for 25 years
with no certifications. At the very least, the guy the the certs has
proven he has a BASIC understanding of vehicle systems.. Who would
you rather hire?
>The good techs who are capable of effecting proper, safe and permanent (no
>"comebacks") repairs STILL command the best money - ASE certification or
>not.
TRUE! And those guys can easily pass the ASEs. No reason not to
have them.
>To become ASE certified, you must pass a multiple-choice, written test.
A sometimes tricky, poorly written, multiple choice test that I think
doesn't always focus on whats important. If I weren't so tired at the
end of it, I would have written an essay about the 15 questions I
disagreed with...
HOWEVER, if you want a CA Smog License. You need A6, A8, L1 in order
to take the test.. (Although there are alternative classes you can
take, its faster to just take the tests)...
ASE's test for a base level of knowledge.. And to think that there
are lots of people working on cars for a living who don't have enough
subject knowledge to pass a bare minimum knowledge test. Scary..
ASE's are not perfect, but since many mechanics don't go out and get
AS Automotive Technology degrees from schools with good programs, the
ASEs are one more credential in the marketplace.
But in the end, it's all pieces of paper.. The real question is, can
a tech fix a car correctly, the first time, and make sure it doesn't
come back? The people who can -- can surely pass the ASEs.
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> Robin <rdlax@hotmail.com> wrote in article
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> Bob Paulin - R.A.C.E.
> Chassis Analysis Services
Maybe true, and I can understand your reasoning, but I think fresh out
of school an ASE would help in finding a job.
laplo80@bellsouth.net - 08 Dec 2003 20:12 GMT
> > Robin <rdlax@hotmail.com> wrote in article
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> Maybe true, and I can understand your reasoning, but I think fresh out
> of school an ASE would help in finding a job.
When I was first certified in 1974,you could take it &25cents to get a
cup of coffee. Now its 3 bucks,or should I say STARBUCKS!