my wife got a BRAND new battery in her 99 bravada a month ago, & car's
been working fine daily - there's only about 60K miles on it. this AM
in garage I'm out having a cig in the driveway, nearby, as she turns
the key to go to work, and I hear the dreaded 'single electrical
click', then her yelling "it won't start AND key won't come out of
ignition, either". I _didn't_ hear the typical 'this battery is in too
low a charge state to crank it over' type solenoid buzzing for a few
seconds - just the one, single, solitary solenoid "we're stone dead
electrically right NOW _immediately_" type click....
more: no electrical functions work: underhood lite, headlites, dome
light, none. key IS stuck in ignition, and shaking the strg whl AND
stomping brake pedal at same time is no help. jiggling key inward,
wiggling steering wheel, and key at same time, outward, back and to,
up and down, pressing inward, outward, all around all no help. key is
in 'off' position, and will only go into (what I assume are) the off,
ignition on, and start (spring-loaded) positions, all of which are 'no
use'/no change/stone dead. shifter also stuck in park, and depressing
it's side button while standing on brake to TRY moving it is ALSO no
help (so car can not even be backed up by pushing it backward from
it's pkg place). there are no indicator lites on dash lit with key in
'on' or off positions (no change), nothing electrical works, no bulbs
glow anywhere of any sort. also, battery screw-on terminals clean,
cable connectors appear clean, AND cables at batt _are_ tight. like I
said, battery is very recently new...
the bravada was working & driving fine as of last evening...had no
typical 'battery is near defective' type indicators as prelude to this
recently, either (no dim headlights, trouble starting it or cranking
it over, etc)
checked and read some google searches text and newgroup texts looking
for recalls/similar problems/solutions, to no avail. found no hidden
'small round hole' to push a pin into by or next to the ignition
switch-which was mentioned as way of releasing stuck keys in some post
I read). sheesh, what to check (or do) next?
"best guesses" as to cause, and possible cures welcomed ..... ;-\
question, in case it's neccessary: under the plastic, is this
column-locking ignition switch held to the column with:
a. factory 'break-off-head' bolts? or maybe
b. by 'security torx' fasteners or
c. normal torx heads, or
d. some other 'proprietary weird-headed' fasteners of some sort?
I'm guessing it's _not_ held to the column by regular allen heads or
normal bolt heads, right? am I gonna need my die grinder, welding
grinder, or dremel for this job?
so, guys, what should I checking for (or do) next? seems highly
unlikely the battery could go from 'known new' yesterday' to 'totally
shot' today...but??? so, uhh???
Mike Behnke - 19 Dec 2003 15:31 GMT
Since there seems to be no electrical activity, have you tried
removing the positive cable from the battery and tried jumping from
another vehicle?
Almost sounds like infant mortality of the battery. Not unheard of.
> my wife got a BRAND new battery in her 99 bravada a month ago, & car's
> been working fine daily - there's only about 60K miles on it. this AM
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> unlikely the battery could go from 'known new' yesterday' to 'totally
> shot' today...but??? so, uhh???
sdlomi - 19 Dec 2003 16:16 GMT
> my wife got a BRAND new battery in her 99 bravada a month ago, & car's
> been working fine daily - there's only about 60K miles on it. this AM
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> unlikely the battery could go from 'known new' yesterday' to 'totally
> shot' today...but??? so, uhh???
First of all, if you wanna roll it out of the garage, energize your
battery (cables, charger, another charged battery) so you can shift it outta
park. That safety, where you gotta depress the brake before shifter will
come outta Park is apparently controlled by an electric solenoid which has
to be energized to operate. If you have cables that won't reach from
another car, jump off your lawn mower's 12v batt. JUST(SEE CAUTION BELOW)
to unlock the shifter. Often, L/M- batt. is easy to remove, light enough to
carry, and powerful enough to do low-load functions on your car.
Sounds like you may or may not have needed a new battery you bought a
month ago. Obviously, something is killing your new battery, or else your
alternator is not recharging it properly.
With the key stuck in the ignition switch: unlock the Park(1st pg.)
first. This may allow enough extra movement of the shifter to "unstick" the
key--and I'm guessing it will.
As for the dead battery: something as simple as a loose/worn alternator
belt slipping could allow the batt's charge to be slowly consumed in a
month's usage. I'm betting on a defective alternator, tho. Like it's
putting out, at best, less than needed to replace what the car is using from
the battery, and after a month, the "pot finally ran dry".
Have alternator checked at AutoZone/Advance or your favorite garage.
CAUTION: DO NOT JUMP-START THE CAR AND ASK THE ALTERNATOR TO RECHARGE THE
BATTERY. INSTEAD, CHARGE THE BATT. WITH A CHARGER. NEWER GM'S WILL
OVERLOAD THE ALTER. IN SUCH INSTANCES AND DESTROY IT.
This next info may hurt. Sorry. IF your old battery was dead a month
ago, and you followed the "DO NOT..."-procedure above, that could've caused
the alter. to be failing now. Many mechanics have not learned this
'lesson-from-hard-knocks' yet; so, don't feel stupid IF this is what occured
to you. (I'm not saying how I learned about it!)
HTH & good luck. Have a merry Christmas, and hopefully this hurdle will
not ruin your day. sdlomi
stuart8181 - 19 Dec 2003 17:23 GMT
Had same thing happen to me. It was a catastrophic battery failure. Dead
short in the battery. Don't waste time looking for anything else. You need a
new battery.
> > my wife got a BRAND new battery in her 99 bravada a month ago, & car's
> > been working fine daily - there's only about 60K miles on it. this AM
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> HTH & good luck. Have a merry Christmas, and hopefully this hurdle will
> not ruin your day. sdlomi
Lobojoe - 22 Jul 2007 21:43 GMT
>my wife got a BRAND new battery in her 99 bravada a month ago, & car's
>been working fine daily - there's only about 60K miles on it. this AM
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>unlikely the battery could go from 'known new' yesterday' to 'totally
>shot' today...but??? so, uhh???