This is a question I've had for a while and wonder if anyone here has
any insights.
Why do many heater cores (and maybe radiators) have different
diameters for the inlet and outlet sides. For example say a 5/8" inlet
and a 3/4" outlet might be a typical size. Why not use the SAME
diameter?
thx
Kathy and Erich Coiner - 12 Oct 2004 04:07 GMT
To make sure you plumb the heater up correctly?
Erich
> This is a question I've had for a while and wonder if anyone here has
> any insights.
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> thx
Ted Mittelstaedt - 12 Oct 2004 07:06 GMT
> To make sure you plumb the heater up correctly?
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> > and a 3/4" outlet might be a typical size. Why not use the SAME
> > diameter?
A larger diameter output gives you a lower back pressure, thus increasing
the water
flow through the heater core. I don't know that this would be tremendously
significant, though, as the heater core itself introduces resistance to
water flow.
Ted
Bob M. - 12 Oct 2004 06:42 GMT
> This is a question I've had for a while and wonder if anyone here has
> any insights.
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> thx
So you can't hook them up backwards.
Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 12 Oct 2004 07:24 GMT
> > This is a question I've had for a while and wonder if anyone here has
> > any insights.
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> So you can't hook them up backwards.
Would it make much difference?

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PAROADHOG - 12 Oct 2004 10:35 GMT
>Why not use the SAME
>> > diameter?
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>Would it make much difference?
Why sure it would. If it were hooked up backwards it would pull heat out of the
car like an air conditioner would.
Hahahaha sorry , somebody had to say it.
Daniel J. Stern - 12 Oct 2004 17:29 GMT
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, it was written:
> Why do many heater cores (and maybe radiators) have different diameters
> for the inlet and outlet sides. For example say a 5/8" inlet and a 3/4"
> outlet might be a typical size. Why not use the SAME diameter?
I see a lot of people saying "So you can't hook it up backwards". That's
an answer that sounds like it makes sense, and perhaps there are a few
oddball cases where that's the reason, but mostly not. The heater *valve*
knows and cares which way the water flows; the heater *core* does not.
In fact, the main reason is to reduce noise. Noise? Yep. Just as sometimes
you can get whistles and squeals from household hot water taps and pipes
when you turn them on, the same can happen under certain circumstances in
an auto heater system if the right resonance happens to be set up. The
different-size pipe on inlet vs. outlet greatly reduces the opportunity
for these kinds of resonances to get started and propagate.
DS
Mike Romain - 12 Oct 2004 22:48 GMT
So they can sell you a proper hose vs you going and buying a generic
chunk of heater hose.
Oh, they are not different like the intake and out hoses are different,
they are different so one end of the hose is smaller and one is larger
thus needing a molded hose.
So if you hook up the larger to the larger, you are going to get it
wrong for flow.
I think the physics behind it are like Daniel describes. Noise.
Naw, who are we kidding, it's money for the molded hose....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Anthony - 12 Oct 2004 23:25 GMT
> So they can sell you a proper hose vs you going and buying a generic
> chunk of heater hose.
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> I think the physics behind it are like Daniel describes. Noise.
Actually, you would be amazed at the lengths automakers go to reduce NVH
(noise, vibration and harshness) in an automobile. It is the #1 priority
aside from the EPA and NTSB.

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Daniel J. Stern - 13 Oct 2004 00:33 GMT
> Actually, you would be amazed at the lengths automakers go to reduce NVH
> (noise, vibration and harshness) in an automobile. It is the #1
> priority aside from the EPA and NTSB.
NHTSA, not NTSB.
BOB URZ - 13 Oct 2004 00:48 GMT
> > Actually, you would be amazed at the lengths automakers go to reduce NVH
> > (noise, vibration and harshness) in an automobile. It is the #1
> > priority aside from the EPA and NTSB.
>
> NHTSA, not NTSB.
If the car fell out of an airplane and was vibrating, the NTSB
might just be the right people. ;)
Bob
Anthony - 13 Oct 2004 02:29 GMT
>> Actually, you would be amazed at the lengths automakers go to reduce
>> NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) in an automobile. It is the #1
>> priority aside from the EPA and NTSB.
>
> NHTSA, not NTSB.
My mistake...wrong one of 10,000 fed agencies...but anywayz....
They still spend a considerable amount of time and effort in the chase of
NVH

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