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gas tank seam repair

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ed - 26 Oct 2004 14:06 GMT
I have a gas tank seam thats oozes just a little but enough to be a fire
hazard in garages.
I have access to the seam area thats doing this and fixed a problem where
the tankl was over pressurizing.  Anyone know the latest material for
sealing these seams from the outside?
Bruce Chang - 26 Oct 2004 17:14 GMT
>I have a gas tank seam thats oozes just a little but enough to be a fire
> hazard in garages.
> I have access to the seam area thats doing this and fixed a problem where
> the tankl was over pressurizing.  Anyone know the latest material for
> sealing these seams from the outside?

I dont' know if it will work on the seam but I used a gas tank repair kit
from NAPA that used Epoxy and a fiberglass piece to seal a puncture on my
brother's gas tank.  I imagine it should work on the seam too as the epoxy
itself shrunk after it cured and stuck really well.  It's just called "gas
tank repair kit" as far as I remember.

-Bruce
BOB URZ - 28 Oct 2004 23:13 GMT
> >I have a gas tank seam thats oozes just a little but enough to be a fire
> > hazard in garages.
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>
> -Bruce

The biggest problem with any fix of this type is to get the area clean down to
the metal. Otherwise it won't stick that well long term.

Bob
Bruce Chang - 28 Oct 2004 23:57 GMT
>> >I have a gas tank seam thats oozes just a little but enough to be a fire
>> > hazard in garages.
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>
> Bob

My brother's gas tank was plastic so I used some brake cleaner to remove any
dirt, oil, etc and then roughened it up with a file.  It's been holding fine
for at least 3 years now.

-Bruce
ed - 29 Oct 2004 03:03 GMT
Working on two or three cars at a time is the pits. Maybe thats why they
call 'the pits' 'pits'! lol...

uh, yeah,.
well, anwyays, as far as this gas tank thing goes, I'll defintely clean
it good before trying to attach anything to it.Problem is metal expands
and contracts that I dont think fiber glass resin will stick for too
long over all the crazy seasons we have.  I am working issues with the
tank having over pressurized itself, and some emissions issues from my
other posts. Maybe its all related, but I am really thinking the vacuum
is screwy. Time to check it against the book with the gauges. When I got
the car the charcoal cannister was not hooked up. The vents from both
tanks were open there, and a bolt was shoved into the line to the
intake. I am fairly sure I have that all settled.

Thanks for the responses.
Joe Bramblett, KD5NRH - 29 Oct 2004 05:11 GMT
ed <overwhelmed999@yahoo.com> wrote in news:MPG.1beb6dcce69fe445989690
@news.verizon.net:

> well, anwyays, as far as this gas tank thing goes, I'll defintely clean
> it good before trying to attach anything to it.

I hope nobody needs to remind you not to use the angle grinder for that...

;)
Bruce Chang - 29 Oct 2004 05:50 GMT
> Working on two or three cars at a time is the pits. Maybe thats why they
> call 'the pits' 'pits'! lol...
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>
> Thanks for the responses.

It's not a resin as far as I can tell, it's more of a two part epoxy that
kind of makes a vulcanized rubber compound.  Maybe epoxy isn't the correct
word.. It's a two part adhesive that gets really hot if you don't use it
fast.  I was there mixing the two parts together and it got so hot, that I
couldn't touch the bag to mix it.  Needless to say, it hardened before I
could even get the brush in it to spread it over the fiberglass.  I tried
using epoxy resin and, like you've mentioned, it couldn't hold up, cracked
and broke and leaked again.  Finally went back to Napa, got another kit and
mixed it quick and slapped it on the tank.  Haven't had a problem since.

-Bruce
ed - 29 Oct 2004 14:01 GMT
Yeah, sparks are not a good thing around all that...  I definitely don't
want my driveway looking like the Challenger accident or anything.  I like
the idea of a rubberized or flexible answer.
Al Bundy - 30 Oct 2004 12:18 GMT
> Yeah, sparks are not a good thing around all that...  I definitely don't
> want my driveway looking like the Challenger accident or anything.  I like
> the idea of a rubberized or flexible answer.

I have used the epoxy on what I thought was a clean area of the tank
bottom. It only lasted a month or so and I could see gas under the
epoxy. I vowed to only use it in an emergency. On a previous occasion
I used that stick epoxy that you knead in your hands and that turned
out to be permanent. With the original posters minor leak at the seam
I bet the hard epoxy would work better.
ed - 30 Oct 2004 14:24 GMT
I like the sound of that putty as far as ease of use goes. I recall
seeing that stuff in the hardware store. The metal on the tank looks
fine except for an obvious cleaning it will need. It was well protected
up under the contour of the rear fender , the seam just for whatever
reason is seaping. I'll be trying it out and reporting back. I will know
if it works or not rather quickly since I have a small spot on the
ground whereever I park for a few hours.

thx again.Anyone following me, will know this is just one of several
'family car' problems I'm working on at the same time. October sucks.
 
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