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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2004

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towncar tranmission job 1100 bucks!!!

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ed - 24 Nov 2004 14:45 GMT
I was just informed by my local transmission shop that the clutches are
burned out in my MIL's Towncar (94) and at first they wanted 2K to replace
the whole tranny.  After I told them my MIL is diabled with no money etc.,
they told me they may be able to find a used or rebuilt one for 1100 bucks.
The symptom with this thing was high RPM's being required to get the thing
moving in first gear, but it would do ok in all the other gears once it got
going.  I changed the fluid etc. and it helpd a tiny bit, but I couldnt
change ALL the fluid due to the torque converter.  Your thoughts?
sdlomi2 - 24 Nov 2004 16:27 GMT
> I was just informed by my local transmission shop that the clutches are
> burned out in my MIL's Towncar (94) and at first they wanted 2K to replace
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> going.  I changed the fluid etc. and it helpd a tiny bit, but I couldnt
> change ALL the fluid due to the torque converter.  Your thoughts?

   Buy (from AutoZone, for ex.) a can of TRANS-X.  Use it, following the
instructions--you may have to siphon out a quart or so of the tr. fluid
presently in the tranny.  May take 6 weeks (likely sooner) of at least short
daily trips to work; but give it a chance.  I've seen it permanently (or for
the life of the tranny) eliminate the problem you describe; and I've used it
not only in cars for resale, in a small town where I would know how well it
worked or didn't, but also in my personal vehicles on which I continued
putting well over 100K miles AFTER application.
   HTH, & good luck, s.
Daniel J. Stern - 25 Nov 2004 17:00 GMT
>     Buy (from AutoZone, for ex.) a can of TRANS-X.

This will, at best, do nothing. At worst, it will greatly worsen the
existing damage to the transmission.
AZGuy - 26 Nov 2004 06:32 GMT
>>     Buy (from AutoZone, for ex.) a can of TRANS-X.
>
>This will, at best, do nothing. At worst, it will greatly worsen the
>existing damage to the transmission.

Nonsense.  At best it will extend the life of the transmission.  At
worst, it will do nothing and no harm.
--
Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts:

"What, sir, is the use of militia?  It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.  . .
Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of
the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
to raise a standing army upon its ruins."  -- Debate, U.S.  House
of Representatives, August 17, 1789  
sdlomi2 - 29 Nov 2004 02:19 GMT
> >>     Buy (from AutoZone, for ex.) a can of TRANS-X.
> >
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> Nonsense.  At best it will extend the life of the transmission.  At
> worst, it will do nothing and no harm.

   Thanks for the backup, AZGuy.  Obviously, you also know FROM EXPERIENCE
the good results obtainable for certain symptoms.  Personally been using it
since mid-'70's.  s
AZGuy - 29 Nov 2004 20:17 GMT
>> >>     Buy (from AutoZone, for ex.) a can of TRANS-X.
>> >
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>the good results obtainable for certain symptoms.  Personally been using it
>since mid-'70's.  s

Correct, it's from EXPERIENCE, not armchair pronouncements from
self-appointed experts (now who would that be).
--
Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts:

"What, sir, is the use of militia?  It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.  . .
Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of
the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
to raise a standing army upon its ruins."  -- Debate, U.S.  House
of Representatives, August 17, 1789  
Dan - 25 Nov 2004 04:44 GMT
They probably figure if you can afford the towncar, you can afford the
repairs.  You always need to add that "other/maintenance" section into
the budget and costs of a car.

There are people, good transmission mechanics, that can dedicate their
entire career to simply transmissions.  Trannies are not easy to
repair...at least the automatic ones aren't.  Manual/standard/sticks
are a little bit more manageable...things like clutch, cable, throwout
bearing and flywheel are a little more accessible.

Dan

>I was just informed by my local transmission shop that the clutches are
>burned out in my MIL's Towncar (94) and at first they wanted 2K to replace
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>going.  I changed the fluid etc. and it helpd a tiny bit, but I couldnt
>change ALL the fluid due to the torque converter.  Your thoughts?
PA-ter - 25 Nov 2004 13:00 GMT
If your dealing with an electronic overdrive (e4OD I think) with the
pushbuton for overdrive, these prices are within range. $1100 is
actually cheap compared to the ones we have done in trucks.
Daniel J. Stern - 25 Nov 2004 16:59 GMT
> I was just informed by my local transmission shop that the clutches are
> burned out in my MIL's Towncar (94) and at first they wanted 2K to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> helpd a tiny bit, but I couldnt change ALL the fluid due to the torque
> converter.  Your thoughts?

The E4OD transmission, like the front wheel drive AXOD, is famous for
quickly "burning down" internally when a hard fault like this develops. It
is also not known for inexpensive repairs. This is one of those
illustrations of how "Quality is Job One" at Ford. I'm afraid you'll find
similar diagnoses and costs to be pretty uniform. You can look for used
transmissions at www.car-part.com .
ed - 25 Nov 2004 17:49 GMT
>>I was just informed by my local transmission shop that the clutches are
>>burned out in my MIL's Towncar (94) and at first they wanted 2K to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> similar diagnoses and costs to be pretty uniform. You can look for used
> transmissions at www.car-part.com .

Since the car is for taking my MIL to and from doctors etc. and we have
the craziest weather around the corner, I have opted for them to change
the unit out.  I have to go with gut on this one. They expect it done by
tuesday.

thx.
Bruce Chang - 25 Nov 2004 17:55 GMT
>>>I was just informed by my local transmission shop that the clutches are
>>>burned out in my MIL's Towncar (94) and at first they wanted 2K to
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> thx.

I think it's funny that MIL stands for "Malfunction Indicator Light" and
"Mother-in-law"
ed - 26 Nov 2004 00:21 GMT
>>>>I was just informed by my local transmission shop that the clutches are
>>>>burned out in my MIL's Towncar (94) and at first they wanted 2K to
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> I think it's funny that MIL stands for "Malfunction Indicator Light" and
> "Mother-in-law"

LOL
Barry S. - 27 Nov 2004 05:57 GMT
>> I was just informed by my local transmission shop that the clutches are
>> burned out in my MIL's Towncar (94) and at first they wanted 2K to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>similar diagnoses and costs to be pretty uniform. You can look for used
>transmissions at www.car-part.com .

You wouldn't believe how many ads for Ford Taurus's (w/ AXODs, of
course) I've seen that read something like this..

"19xx Ford Taurus, needs transmission but otherwise ok, $500"

But back to the original poster:  My thoughts are your MIL is going to
need to decide how much she really wants to keep this car..  It's not
going to be a cheap repair.  Rebuilding/Disassembling/Reassembling an
automatic transmission has got to be one of the more challenging
repairs..  (They have a lot of parts and are unforgiving if you forget
a little metal ball or rod.)   A rebuild would likely take me a
weekend in labor alone and I've rebuilt a transmission or two.

If you plan to keep the car for a while, purchase a new transmission.

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scott and barb - 30 Nov 2004 23:00 GMT
Lucky for me I guess;Best friend is a wizard at auto trannies.I say find a
junk yard unit for - say 350.00 but there is no guarantees obviously.Yeah,
my buddy likes OD trannies from all makes, they all break down.

> >> I was just informed by my local transmission shop that the clutches are
> >> burned out in my MIL's Towncar (94) and at first they wanted 2K to
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ed - 30 Nov 2004 23:12 GMT
> Lucky for me I guess;Best friend is a wizard at auto trannies.I say find a
> junk yard unit for - say 350.00 but there is no guarantees obviously.Yeah,
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>
>>N37.3 W122.0

Its fixed supposedly. They changed it out.
I have to pick it up. 1066 bucks.
 
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