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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / December 2004

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Timing Gear Problem

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jwallacq@hotmail.com - 29 Dec 2004 14:55 GMT
I have a 97 F-150 with a 4.2L V-6, and about a year ago I had to have
the engine rebuilt. ( I have subsequently been told by various people
that the shop that did my overhaul has a reputation for shoddy work.)
Anyhow, there was a 20,000 mile warranty and after about 25,000 miles
the rebuilt engine started acting up, and finally died.  I couldn't
afford another $2000, so I decided to work on it myself this time.

Now I think that I have found the problem ( or at least *a* problem):
The crankshaft timing-sprocket key had sheared, and so the sprocket was
partially slipping on the shaft.

Here's my question:  The design of the keying arrangement seems so
incredibly poor, that I'm wondering if maybe the rebuilder used the
wrong parts or something.

The Woodruff key (half-moon shaped) is about 1.4 inches long by about
5/16 at the deepest point by 3/16 wide.  But the slot in the crankshaft
is positioned in such a way that only about 1/4 of an inch of the key
engages the sprocket, and the other 1 inch of the key engages the
vibration damper.  Furthermore, the slot in the sprocket hub is only
about 1/16 inch deep!  So it's no wonder that the thing sheared; the
amazing thing is that it lasted as long as it did.

It looks to me like the key slot in the crankshaft must have been
milled in the wrong place,  but that seems awfully hard to believe.
And I don't see any way to re-position the sprocket because it was
lined up correctly with the camshaft sprocket.  But I'm sure that if I
just go out and buy a new sprocket & key,  they will fail again in a
few months.

Any suggestions ???

TIA,   john w.   (  jwallacq AT hotmail DOT com )

P.S. >>  One other wierd thing, and I don't know if this could possibly
be related: The chain tensioner seems to be jammed in the fully
extended position. Even now that I have it removed from the engine and
out on the workbench, I can't get it to retract.  So it must have been
putting a lot of excessive tension on the chain.
lugnut - 29 Dec 2004 15:11 GMT
>I have a 97 F-150 with a 4.2L V-6, and about a year ago I had to have
>the engine rebuilt. ( I have subsequently been told by various people
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>out on the workbench, I can't get it to retract.  So it must have been
>putting a lot of excessive tension on the chain.

The thing to keep in mind is that the crank key - as is the
case with most keys - is only to properly position or locate
the sprocket and damper with respect to the crank.  The
damper and sprocket are intended to be retained in the
proper position by correctly torqueing the crank bolt.  Once
the crank bolt is properly torqued, you could practically
run it w/o a key at all.  If the sprocket and damper have
now rotated on the crank, you should examine all of the
parts for any damage.  They should be a snug slip fit.
Minor damage or light scoring may be acceptable.  I think,
if the parts and engine do not appear  to be otherwise
damaged, I would install a new sprocket using hardening
Loctite and make sure it is correctly torqued to
specifications.  I would not use the Loctite or anything
else in this area unless there is some indication of damage.
Bottom line IMHO is that the crank bolt was loose causing
the key to bear the driving load of the cam and
auxilliaries.  You probably should use a non-hardening
Loctite on the bolt threads to make sure it does not happen
again.
jwallacq@hotmail.com - 31 Dec 2004 14:00 GMT
That's a good point.
Now that you mention it, I remember that I had a devil of a time
getting the vibration damper off.  Maybe the shaft is slightly scored
and that might have prevented the previous mechanic from getting the
damper fully seated.

john w.
 
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