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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2005

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1996 Chev PU with 305 Fuel Pump?

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Mountain - 16 Feb 2005 02:22 GMT
I have a 1996 Chev PU 4x4 extracab reg box with a 305.  It has become
very hard to start.  Once running, it will run fine on idle.  When it
is put in gear and accelerated slightly, it will stall and be hard to
start.  In park, if the rpm is raised from idle, it will always stall
at a consistant 900 rpm.  My best guess at this time is the intank fuel
pump?  Would appreciate some feedback from anyone before I drop the
tank and sink the money into the pump.  I am thinking of purchaing an
Equus 3100 OBD II Code Reader.  Would it be able to confirm a fuel pump
issue before I try the new part?
Spud Demon - 16 Feb 2005 15:32 GMT
"Mountain" <mountain_d26@hotmail.com> writes in article <1108520549.102748.268210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> dated 15 Feb 2005 18:22:29 -0800:
>I have a 1996 Chev PU 4x4 extracab reg box with a 305.  It has become
>very hard to start.  Once running, it will run fine on idle.  When it
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>Equus 3100 OBD II Code Reader.  Would it be able to confirm a fuel pump
>issue before I try the new part?

It could be a clogged fuel filter, or other blockage in the fuel line.
These things would cause the same diagnostic codes as a "slow" fuel pump.

A code reader sounds like a good investment if you plan to keep the vehicle
for a while.  Even if you don't fix it yourself, getting a leg up on the
diagnosis will save you money at the shop.

-- spud_demon -at- thundermaker.net
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Mike Behnke - 17 Feb 2005 14:26 GMT
 When was the air filter changed last.  Try pulling the filter and see
how the engine runs.

> "Mountain" <mountain_d26@hotmail.com> writes in article <1108520549.102748.268210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> dated 15 Feb 2005 18:22:29 -0800:
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> -- spud_demon -at- thundermaker.net
> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Mountain - 20 Feb 2005 13:42 GMT
Yes, I should have mentioned that I did replace the fuel filter and did
run it with the filter off.  I guess one thing I am curious to know is,
do fuel pumps most often die outright, or can they loose pressure and
then just run at an idle but act up when the rpm is increased?
Mountain

> I have a 1996 Chev PU 4x4 extracab reg box with a 305.  It has become
> very hard to start.  Once running, it will run fine on idle.  When it
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Equus 3100 OBD II Code Reader.  Would it be able to confirm a fuel pump
> issue before I try the new part?
aarcuda69062 - 20 Feb 2005 14:32 GMT
In article
<1108906952.923563.307260@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

> Yes, I should have mentioned that I did replace the fuel filter and did
> run it with the filter off.  I guess one thing I am curious to know is,
> do fuel pumps most often die outright, or can they loose pressure and
> then just run at an idle but act up when the rpm is increased?
> Mountain

A dyeing fuel pump can act up in many different ways.
Sometimes, they just quit outright, other times, the engine may
exhibit hard starting symptoms a few times before they totally
die. Sometimes, all that is noticed is a loss of power or flat
acceleration, sometimes it's excessive noise before they totally
quit.
A fuel pump -has- to output more pressure and volume when
accelerating versus just idling, so that might be the only
warning you get before total failure.

An OBD scan tool -might- show a lean fuel condition under
acceleration, but not always.
I repaired a 98 Chevy K-1500 last week that had a failing fuel
pump, it had hard starting symptoms a few times in the week
before, on the day the customer drove it to my shop, it started
and ran fine, I scanned it on a test drive at the end of the day
and everything looked fine fuel wise, high O2 sensor volts on
acceleration, normal fuel trim on acceleration, the next morning,
it was a no start with zero fuel pressure, I rapped the fuel tank
with a rubber mallet and then had 30 PSI of fuel pressure, still
half of what is called for in the specs.
In my opinion, a fuel pressure gauge would be more useful in
diagnosing your problem and a whole lot cheaper than a scan tool.
Mountain - 22 Feb 2005 13:46 GMT
Sounds like good advice on the 96 Chev fuel pump
I will check out the fuel pressure gauge
Do you have any thoughts on the Innovus 3100 code reader as a purchase
for other things?
Mountain
 
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