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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2005tightening power steering belt
Went to tighten my PS belt today, and had no problem loosening the pivot bolt on top of the power steering pump. The lockbolt just under the pulley however was a different issue. I couldn't get to it. My ratchet head was too big to fit between the bolt and the side of the.....I don't know - the engine compartment/wall? I couldn't get a wrench down there either. See the pictures below. In pic2, the lockbolt is marked with the red arrow, and the side of the wall in the dotted yellow line. Any suggestions???? Are there any good tools that would squeeze down in there? I tried an offset wrench, but the angle wasn't enough to clear the pulley. http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic1.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic2.jpg That 'sure doesn't look like a PS belt to me..... That looks like a serpentine belt that has only one master adjustment pulley which is up top usually. Oh if I am wrong and that isn't the nut to take the pump off with like it looks (hard to tell in the close up), you can use a box end wrench on it just fine. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Went to tighten my PS belt today, and had no problem loosening the > pivot bolt on top of the power steering pump. The lockbolt just under [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic1.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic2.jpg According to the Chiltons manual it's the power steering belt. The pivot bolt is above the pulley, just outside of the picture. The lockbolt (marked) has to be loosened in order for the adjustment bolt to be adjusted. The adjustment bolt is just on the other side of the pulley - you can look through the holes in the pulley and just see part of the bracket that the lockbolt goes into to lock down the adjustment bolt. Ok, then a box end wrench it is then. I have some needle nose 'vise grips' that also will squeeze in to places like that for a 'hold' if I can turn the other end ok. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > According to the Chiltons manual it's the power steering belt. The > pivot bolt is above the pulley, just outside of the picture. The [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of the bracket that the lockbolt goes into to lock down the adjustment > bolt. I can't tell from the pictures how much room there is or is not there. A combination of short extensions and a u-joint might work. Can you get to it from the backside? > Went to tighten my PS belt today, and had no problem loosening the > pivot bolt on top of the power steering pump. The lockbolt just under [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic1.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic2.jpg Craftsman (and I'm sure others) sell a hex insert that fits into sockets. If you can fit a socket on the bolt, this should work. Basically you put the socket on, then the hex insert and then use a wrench on it. The insert comes in 1/4, 3/8s and 1/2 drives sizes and the hex side, at least for the 3/8s is 13mm. -Bruce Maybe I can get sockets that aren't as deep, but my current socket set is too deep to fit between the bolt and the edge of the wall there - probably < 1 in. So I couldn't even get the socket on. > Maybe I can get sockets that aren't as deep, but my current socket set > is too deep to fit between the bolt and the edge of the wall there - > probably < 1 in. So I couldn't even get the socket on. A deep offset box wrench looks like it would work. nate try an open end spaner if 2 tight try linken to spaners to make a lever to loossen > Went to tighten my PS belt today, and had no problem loosening the > pivot bolt on top of the power steering pump. The lockbolt just under [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic1.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic2.jpg I bet one of my swivel end box wrenches would easily fit. They cost nearly $15 per wrench but I use them all the time and have lost only one in 15 years. > Went to tighten my PS belt today, and had no problem loosening the > pivot bolt on top of the power steering pump. The lockbolt just under [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic1.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic2.jpg Something like this serpentine belt tool might do the trick http://www.bobstools.net/Store/LS57900.html > > Went to tighten my PS belt today, and had no problem loosening the > > pivot bolt on top of the power steering pump. The lockbolt just [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > lockbolt is marked with the red arrow, and the side of the wall in > > the dotted yellow line. Can u remove pulley first? s > > Any suggestions???? Are there any good tools that would squeeze > down [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Something like this serpentine belt tool might do the trick > http://www.bobstools.net/Store/LS57900.html If I remove the pulley, I won't be able to tighten the belt. Also wouldn't be able to tighten the lockbolt back down. > > > Went to tighten my PS belt today, and had no problem loosening the > > > pivot bolt on top of the power steering pump. The lockbolt just [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Something like this serpentine belt tool might do the trick > > http://www.bobstools.net/Store/LS57900.html > If I remove the pulley, I won't be able to tighten the belt. Also > wouldn't be able to tighten the lockbolt back down. I certainly understand that! But, check w/an authority (prolly many such will respond as soon as I post this) & be sure: could be that this bolt just needs to be as snug as possible, yet loose enough to rotate the pump and lock it down with the adjustment-bolt. HTH, and good luck, s > Went to tighten my PS belt today, and had no problem loosening the > pivot bolt on top of the power steering pump. > Any suggestions???? How about smaller pictures? Geez, 400k for a pic I saved as 31k! Some of us don't have high-speed I-net, gosh darn it. > Are there any good tools that would squeeze down > in there? I tried an offset wrench, but the angle wasn't enough to > clear the pulley. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic1.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbunch/pic2.jpg On this page: http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/1 4/3a/3b/0900823d80143a3b.jsp This pic: http://www.autozone.com/images/cds/gif/medium/0900823d80143a47.gif ...shows a guy's blurry hand coming in from the side (or is it front?) with a flat wrench, after removing the belt shield. More room for the wrench to swing? Sorry about the picture size - forgot to adjust my camera setting before I took them..... I see the image on autozone - but you'll see that the guy has almost zero space between the wrench & pulley and also between the wrench & refrigerant line. There's no space to swing the wrench even 1/10 of a rotation. I also notice in the picture his belt is already loose, giving him a hair more room. If the belt were tight, then it would already be in the way in that picture. I'm gonna go back to square one - take a normal wrench, and offset it, and put some pipe around the end to get some leverage and see what happens. > Sorry about the picture size - forgot to adjust my camera setting > before I took them..... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and put some pipe around the end to get some leverage and see what > happens. You can buy a deep offset box, just check your local FLAPS or sears hardware nate  Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel OK - got it - I just used a normal wrench, not the box end. I offset it a bit, like the picture, and started out at about the same angle as the picture and it was fine. I don't know why it took me so long. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions. > > Sorry about the picture size - forgot to adjust my camera setting > > before I took them..... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > replace "fly" with "com" to reply. > http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel Is that not just a nut on the end of a bolt? That sure was my impression and on any power steering pump I have played with, you just have to hold that nut or that nut is spot welded to the pump frame so it doesn't move. You do the turning from the back side using the head of the bolt.... Therefore it should be really easy to do. Worst is you hold that nut steady with a box end wrench. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Sorry about the picture size - forgot to adjust my camera setting > before I took them..... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and put some pipe around the end to get some leverage and see what > happens. No - not really. The lockbolt - the one that I had trouble with getting to, is a bolt with a really deep head. Locks the pump in place whereever you've adjusted the adjustment bolt to. > Is that not just a nut on the end of a bolt? That sure was my > impression and on any power steering pump I have played with, you just [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > and put some pipe around the end to get some leverage and see what > > happens. Just a suggestion, You can usualy (and often easily) disconnect one of the engine/trans mounts and jack the engine up just a bit. I've done this on hondas a million times and it really puts things right out in the open. Not sure if it would have worked here but good to keep in mind. Have fun, Karl. |
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