The 'Security' light on the instrument panel is coming on in my 98 Chevy
Astro van. It comes on when the key is turned on, then goes out for about a
second when the engine starts, and then comes back on solid. Sometimes,
shutting the engine off and restarting will make the light stay off but not
always. The manual says it indicates a problem with the the Passlock
system, whatever the hell that is, and to take it to the dealer for
repairs. Right. So, WTF is Passlock, and what does it do to/for me? What
would cause it to have problems and how can I fix or disable it? It sounds
like one of those stupid things that GM thinks you need, like DRL's...
Winston - 08 Apr 2005 05:35 GMT
> The 'Security' light on the instrument panel is coming on in my 98 Chevy
> Astro van.
You got it. It be welfare for the Chevy shop. As if that was necessary.
Buddy of mine found one on his new truck a few years too late.
I hotwired it for him and followed him to the shop so that he could have
a 'Passlockectomy' done. Messy and expensive, but the patient survived.
Must have increased my respect for the folks at GM because nothing could
have reduced it.
--Winston
usshopkins@yahoo.com - 08 Apr 2005 12:58 GMT
Passlock is an antitheft system. The car wont run if you dont have a
key in it that has the "correct" chip in it. Look at your chip and
notice the little black thing. It MAY be that your key is bad. Try a
different key.
You'll need to get it faxed because pretty soon it will think you
aren't you and fail to start. That sucks when you're at a gas pump like
I was when it happened to me.
Sam
Z.Z. - 08 Apr 2005 17:25 GMT
? wrote:
> Passlock is an antitheft system. The car wont run if you dont have a
> key in it that has the "correct" chip in it. Look at your chip and
> notice the little black thing. It MAY be that your key is bad. Try a
> different key.
> ...
Thanks for the reply. After I posted I did a Google search and found lots
of info on Passlock. Just as I suspected, it's a solution for a problem
that doesn't exist, something that I don't want or need but can't turn
off in a vehicle that I own and is expensive to fix. What a crock.
From what I gather, I have Passock II where the resistor is in the
ignition switch, not in the key as in the previous versions (I did try
the spare key, tho, with no luck). There are lots of bypass modules
available to make remote starters work with Passlock but I'm not clear on
whether they totally bypass it or bypass it only when using the remote
starter.
I haven't had a chance to look at it yet so maybe it's just a loose wire
or something simple (hope springs eternal...).
Let's see...airbags I can't disable but don't need (I always use
seatbelts), DRL's I can't turn off but are of little real value, an
antitheft device on a vehicle that is rarely stolen, and now I read that
tire pressure sensors will be required on 2008 models. Gimme a break...
Pete C. - 08 Apr 2005 19:36 GMT
> ? wrote:
>
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> antitheft device on a vehicle that is rarely stolen, and now I read that
> tire pressure sensors will be required on 2008 models. Gimme a break...
You certainly can disable airbags, you're not supposed to but it's not
difficult.
For the DRLs you just pull the fuse marked DRL and they're history.
You can also disable the antitheft crap if you want.
Tire pressure sensors are probably the first thing that has some value.
I check the tire pressures on my truck about once a month or if
something looks / feels hinky. Continuous monitoring isn't a bad thing.
A few seconds warning before the tire actually goes flat if you get a
puncture is certainly a plus at highway speed.
Pete C.
Dog - 06 Dec 2005 00:39 GMT
So, WTF is Passlock, and what does it do to/for me? What
>would cause it to have problems and how can I fix or disable it? It sounds
>like one of those stupid things that GM thinks you need, like DRL's...
My security light started coming on again about a year after paying the
dealership $450 to replace a faulty Ignition lock cylinder. I was at my wit’s
end. My wife and kids would be stuck at night in some shopping center
parking lot waiting 10 minutes to reset the stupid thing. I was able to
Bypass, disable or Ghetto Hack my passlock II system on my 2002 Oldsmobile
Alero without relays or resistors. I had my local Auto wiring tech install a
$5 on/off toggle switch into the yellow (resistance) wire that you are
supposed to cut and mount it under my dash in the event that a dealership
tech reset the security “fail- enable” mode or the battery stayed
disconnected for an extended period of time. All I need to do is flip a
switch to break the circuit again while the car is running. Here is another
thread and some supporting evidence of why this actually works. The entire
job took 25 minutes. If my security light goes out, that’s when I know that
there’s a problem. You could also remove the bulb if the security light
really bothers you. This apparently works for both passlock I and passlock II.
There is an incredible link below with high resolution pictures of the
wiring for your specific car. I included the actual photos that I used to
access my ignition lock cylinder wiring. Good luck and post with your success
stories! 12/4/05
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?TID=59694&PN=1&TPN=1
http://www.insurorsservicebureau.com/ISB%20technical/ISB_QA.pdf page 4, The
PASS Key Module also has the ability to allow engine operation if it
recognizes a system fault in the ignition key reference circuit while the
engine is running. In this case the Module enters and remains in a mode which
allows the engine to be started and run without reading the resistance chip.
This mode requires that the original factory resistance chip key be in the
ignition lock
cylinder at the time the fault occurs. During this mode, the
security light will be ON all the time. When the key reference circuit is
repaired, the module will automatically reprogram itself to the mode
requiring the original resistance chip.
http://www.motorage.com/motorage/data/articlestandard/motorage/292005/169809/art
icle.pdf
page 3, If the correct key is in the cylinder and that circuit
fails while the engine is running, this is considered a
malfunction, not a theft attempt. The “Security” light
may turn on to warn of a system malfunction, but even if
it doesn’t, a key recognition circuit failure with the proper
key in the lock will cause the TDM to enter what GM
calls a “fail-enable” mode. Essentially, the theft-deterrent
system goes offline and the engine will start and run
with any key that turns the lock.
http://www.directwholesale.net/diagrams/Images.asp?ImageID=84&link=BULLDOG
http://www.directwholesale.net/diagrams/Images.asp?ImageID=87&link=BULLDOG
http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/ and click on vehicle wiring diagrams to
select your particular make.
Also how to disable Daytime Running Lamps
http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html