We have a 1993 Caprice Classic which was formally a New Hampshire state
police car. We bought it at state auction in 1998 and my wife drove it
with no problems up until about 2 years ago. All of a sudden her
headaches seemed to come on gradually and they seemed to occur every
time she drove the car. We suspected that it could be Co., and inasmuch
as the muffler was leaking a slight amount anyway we went ahead and
replaced the entire exhaust system. I personally checked it carefully
for leaks afterwards and ascertained that there were none. She drove
the car afterwards and almost instantly got a headache. A mechanic
friend suggested that perhaps it could be dampness causing mold. He
gave me a 120V ionizer which I was to place in the car, and plug in
overnight with the windows closed. He cautioned me though not to use it
if the carpets were wet. I first checked the carpets and did indeed
find them wet especially on the front drivers side. We pulled the
carpet and to my disappointment we found that a major portion of the
floor under the pedal area, going into the corner post and running up
the firewall was rusted through badly. New Hampshire uses an
unbelievable amount of road salt in the Winter and cars are destroyed
by this. We did not use the ionizer. It was a great deal of work but
the carpet and padding were both removed and the area was treated with
Por15, sheet metal was replaced, the floor was sealed, new carpet was
installed and the underside was treated as well. I then borrowed the
ionizer again and used it for a full 24 hours. Upon opening the door
afterwards the car really smelled "fresh" and I was hopeful that we had
resolved the problem. But still the headaches came. We did have a
slight residual smell from the Por15 and there was of course that
unmistakeable new carpet smell that only fades with time, so I thought
maybe I had created a new problem. So for the whole winter the car just
sat. This spring I got it out, and upon opening it up noted that there
was no residual smell left. The carpets were dry and I had my wife
drive it two miles and back and she again got a headache. They seem to
start at the top of her head and just go on from there. I mentioned
this to my mechanic friend again and he suggested that it could still
be mold perhaps in the heaing and cooling ducts. I know that moisture
does collect in there and rots the blower resistors out. (we replaced
the resistor in ours already). So he suggested that I take full
strenght bleach in a spray bottle and while the engine is running with
the blower on spray the bleach into the cowl vents. I sprayed about a
quart while working the controls between heat and AC. I also sprayed
the bleach into the vents from the inside of the car as well and also
onto the padding that is still up on the firewall. This is a foam
material and was not replaced but it is very dry. I kept the windows
closed while doing this and the inside of the car smelled really
strong, like swimming pool shock after a few minutes and even the next
day it still did. I would have hoped that would have killed any mold
that might have still been in there. I have driven the car since and
have run it in vent position as well as heat and AC and all the
chlorine smell is now gone. This afternoon my wife and I went out to
the car and just sat in it for 10 minutes with the doors open. The
engine was off. We were listening to the radio and she was reading the
paper. I was hopeful until after about 15 minutes she mentioned that
another headache was coming on again. With the front doors open and the
engine off! I have had many people ride in this car and she is the only
one who can not be near it. This car looks and runs great. I really
want to keep it. Of course I'd like my wife to be around too. The car
has given us great service but I am at my wits end with this problem.
Does ANYONE have any ideas? I appoligize for the long winded story but
I wanted to try to provide all the facts. Thanks for any suggestions.
Lenny Stein.
« Paul » - 21 Apr 2005 02:01 GMT
> We have a 1993 Caprice Classic which was formally a New Hampshire state
> police car. We bought it at state auction in 1998 and my wife drove it
> with no problems up until about 2 years ago. All of a sudden her
> headaches seemed to come on gradually and they seemed to occur every
> time she drove the car.
Since you have eliminated everything else, that leaves the plastic
that the entire interior of the car is made of.
Some people are allergic to pvc's and abs's.
captainvideo462002@yahoo.com - 21 Apr 2005 05:51 GMT
But why all of a suden after driving it for almost 4 years?
Raymond J. Henry - 21 Apr 2005 07:05 GMT
>But why all of a suden after driving it for almost 4 years?
Allergies are like that. Sometimes you grow into them, sometimes you
grow out of them. I have a friend who is having a heck of a times, as
every couple of years her picks up a new allergy.
Steve B. - 21 Apr 2005 17:31 GMT
>But why all of a suden after driving it for almost 4 years?
There probably was an issue back when the exhaust was leaking and
there were holes in the floor. The mind is a powerful thing and if
some part of her thinks that the car is going to cause a headache then
the car is going to cause a headache.
Life is short and good women are hard to find. Were I in this
position I would drive the car myselfand give her my car or trade it
in and get her something new.
Steve B.
Lawrence Glickman - 21 Apr 2005 07:40 GMT
>But why all of a suden after driving it for almost 4 years?
Carbon Monoxide poisoning.
Put a CO monitor in the passenger compartment on the dashboard to RULE
THIS OUT.
Lg
Al Bundy - 21 Apr 2005 12:27 GMT
Duh LG
She gets a headache sitting in it with the motor off.
TeGGeR® - 21 Apr 2005 13:08 GMT
> Duh LG
> She gets a headache sitting in it with the motor off.
The word "psychosomatic" comes to mind...

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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in news:Xns963F52B7DAE2Ftegger@
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>> Duh LG
>> She gets a headache sitting in it with the motor off.
>
> The word "psychosomatic" comes to mind...
sounds to me like someone may want a new car!!! KB

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Dan - 21 Apr 2005 16:05 GMT
I'm stunned that you could buy a decommissioned police car & actually
not have it crap out entirely on the way home. Bit like buying a used
taxi. 12 years old now and driven all over the state its 1st 5 years?
Must have 200K on it by now. Seems like you've put about as much
effort into the beast as it deserves.
Dan
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in news:Xns963F52B7DAE2Ftegger@
> 207.14.113.17:
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>
> sounds to me like someone may want a new car!!! KB
Al Bundy - 22 Apr 2005 00:50 GMT
> I'm stunned that you could buy a decommissioned police car & actually
> not have it crap out entirely on the way home. Bit like buying a used
> taxi. 12 years old now and driven all over the state its 1st 5 years?
> Must have 200K on it by now. Seems like you've put about as much
> effort into the beast as it deserves.
>
> Dan
Don't be stunned Dan. It's a Chevy. Mine is 23 years old with the
original driveline including the universal joints.
Nate Nagel - 22 Apr 2005 01:15 GMT
>>I'm stunned that you could buy a decommissioned police car & actually
>
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> Don't be stunned Dan. It's a Chevy. Mine is 23 years old with the
> original driveline including the universal joints.
I'm not impressed by Chevys overall, but the police cars generally got
HD everything... think everything that comes with a towing package, and
then throw in a couple more HD goodies.
I've often thought if I ever needed a large car of going the old cop car
route; if nothing else I don't think I could deal with a typical
AmeriBarge(tm) without the cop suspension.
nate

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Al Bundy - 22 Apr 2005 01:15 GMT
> I'm stunned that you could buy a decommissioned police car & actually
> not have it crap out entirely on the way home. Bit like buying a used
> taxi. 12 years old now and driven all over the state its 1st 5 years?
> Must have 200K on it by now. Seems like you've put about as much
> effort into the beast as it deserves.
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> >
> > sounds to me like someone may want a new car!!! KB
Lawrence Glickman - 21 Apr 2005 18:21 GMT
>Duh LG
>She gets a headache sitting in it with the motor off.
oh
RV - 24 Apr 2005 02:25 GMT
>Duh LG
>She gets a headache sitting in it with the motor off.
CO poisoning causes headaches/sore eyes, but more often after the
person has been in a car with CO leak, some hrs afterward even, not
during the trip generally.
Stop driving the car for a day or two, if no headaches then its CO.
« Paul » - 22 Apr 2005 01:33 GMT
> But why all of a suden after driving it for almost 4 years?
Women's hormones change.
Jack - 21 Apr 2005 17:50 GMT
Lenny trade in the wife, less headaches!
> We have a 1993 Caprice Classic which was formally a New Hampshire state
> police car. We bought it at state auction in 1998 and my wife drove it
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> I wanted to try to provide all the facts. Thanks for any suggestions.
> Lenny Stein.
rich - 21 Apr 2005 18:44 GMT
Did GM put an air filter in the car?
I know more and more cars come from the factory with cabin air filters.
If your car has one and it hasnt been changed in years.......
AAACHOOOO!
Also, did you do anything to the seats?
Cloth? foam?
Heck, even the headliner can hold a lot of junk
Mark Levitski - 23 Apr 2005 22:46 GMT
It is caused by Jews
captainvideo462002@yahoo.com - 24 Apr 2005 18:32 GMT
Really! Can you expand on that theory?
Alotta Fagina - 11 May 2005 13:17 GMT