I can't read the clock in my radio during the day so I stuck an LCD
clock to my dashboard. Problem was I could not
read it as night without pressing a button to light the display.
Besides, it lost about a minute a week.
I thought I found the solution in the JC Whitney LED DIGITAL QUARTZ
CLOCK SKU#ZX812798R $15.95. I cut a hole in
my dash and installed it only to find two problems:
1. I could not read it during the day - The LED display was very dim.
2. It gained about a minute a week.
This digital was the only one I could find after an extensive search
so I resolved to fix these problems.
I ordered another clock to experiment with and took it apart. The
first problem resulted from a 0.80 thick plastic
lens in front of the actual LED. It was red and dimmed the light from
the LED behind it. I cut a slot the actual
size of the led in a piece of black plastic the same thickness - a
clear piece could be used but the the PC board
the LED is mounted on would be visible. I assume this is why they used
the red color on the lens.
The second problem was a little harder to figure out - I looked up the
quartz crystal (3.93216 MHz ) which the clock
depends on for accuracy.
There is a pair of capacitors used to load the crystal and the
required value was specified at 17 pico-farad.
I found useful information on crystal timing at:
http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/555
The first thing was that a clock running fast can be adjusted by
increasing the capactor values. The second thing
was a formula the total value for capacitors hooked up in series. If
they are the same value, the total value
is half the value of the individual capacitors.
I found the load capacitors in the clock were 15 pf which calculates
out to a load value of 7.5pf versus the 17pf
specified. I substituted two 33pf ceramic capacitors for a calculated
value of 16.5pf - much closer to the 17pf
specified. The result was the clocks (I changed both) now gain or
loose 1 second or less in a week of testing.
You may wonder why I went to this much trouble -
1. I could not find another clock that might work.
2. I had cut a hole in my dash which the clock fitted into.
pater - 08 May 2005 12:56 GMT
Ya could have gone to wall mart & gotten a watch for $2. No holes in
dash, it's right on your arm so even if your not in your car you can
still worry about the time. Life's too short to sweat a minuite a week.
Slow down man, heart attacks make life even shorter.
Ashton Crusher - 08 May 2005 19:12 GMT
>I can't read the clock in my radio during the day so I stuck an LCD
>clock to my dashboard. Problem was I could not
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>1. I could not find another clock that might work.
>2. I had cut a hole in my dash which the clock fitted into.
Don't you own a watch?
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Al Bundy - 08 May 2005 22:58 GMT
I think he merely wanted to impress all of us with his research on
capacitors, in which the values of the reciprocals add up when placed
in series. If you only have two, that reciprocal is one half. Big
deal.
I'm not knocking you Steamer. I love to tinker for the experimental
value and to customize everything about as well.
-exray- - 08 May 2005 23:29 GMT
> I think he merely wanted to impress all of us with his research on
> capacitors, in which the values of the reciprocals add up when placed
> in series. If you only have two, that reciprocal is one half. Big
> deal.
> I'm not knocking you Steamer. I love to tinker for the experimental
> value and to customize everything about as well.
Many of these little offshore clock gizmos have a little curved wire
representing some capacitance that you can simply move around to 'tune'
the oscillator.
Falling into the believe-it-or-not category, the US import tariffs are
higher on adjusted clock movements vs un-adjusted. So its pretty easy
for a guy to guess what he's getting straight out of the Dollar Store
blister-pack from China.
If you have enough spare "time" (how ironic?) you can adjust these cheap
movements to pretty good accuracy but they aren't very stable with
temperature...particularly not in the constantly changing environment of
a car interior. I wouldn't lose much sleep (there it is again!) over a
minute per week. Buy a $15 Timex wristwatch and hang it from the dash
or put it on your wrist :)
-Bill
pater - 09 May 2005 01:18 GMT
John S. - 08 May 2005 23:17 GMT
"You may wonder why I went to this much trouble -
1. I could not find another clock that might work.
2. I had cut a hole in my dash which the clock fitted into."
Yes, lets say that I did wonder why such a minor problem required such
a drastic solution. Since the existing clock was fully visible for at
least half the day a simpler solution might have been to buy a Timex
Ironman or Casio wristwatch. Or tune to one many radio stations that
broadcast the time at least every 10 minutes.
sfsteamer - 11 May 2005 22:56 GMT
I agree with the obsessive/compulsive comments - I could have covered
up the hole in the dash and stuck on a $2 LCD clock or just looked at
my watch but I get a kick out of seeing the clock working like it
should where I can see it and without twisting my wrist or pushing a
button.