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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / June 2005

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Nationwide Crash Repair BEWARE Poor quality repair

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Frustrated Car Owner - 16 May 2005 14:12 GMT
Hey,

I've never bothered to post to a newsgroup before, but this is
something people need to know!  This may be a bit long, but if you're
thinking about taking your car to NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR then please
read this. You'll thank me for it!

On my way to work, a women driver, in a skoda, pulled out on me on a
round about... I hit her, we were both OK, no broken bones, but my car
was looking a bit sorry for itself!

No problem I thought, we're all insured, I'll just give my friendly
insurance company DIRECT LINE a call.  They picked up my car from the
roadside within an hour, dropped me off home then dropped my car off at
NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR in Bletchley.

Great I thought.  That was three months ago.  NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR
gave me an estimated date of three weeks.  Two days before the
completion date, I phoned to arrange collection of my fixed car... Ah,
they have found more problems with the car, it would seem when they
removed the engine they found the air con was broken, some gearbox
mounts and a few other things. Fine, these things happen, another
estimated date of two weeks was added.  Now in the mean time, I knew my
tax was coming to an end, so I gave NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR a quick
call to see when I had to get new tax.... They told me that there is no
tax disk on the car!!!! Between the recovery vehicle picking up my car
and me phoning the garage a month later some thieving fecking chav
mechanic had stolen my Richbrook Aluminium tax disc holder. SCUMS.

Anyway, back to the point, after 2 months and 1 week I get a call
saying my car is ready.  WHOOHOOO so off we rush (my girlfriend and i)
to pick the car up.  Unfortunetly I didn't have my camera with me
that day :(, The first thing I noticed was a piece of paint missing
from my bumper, my car is metallic black, and there was a 2cm square
patch of white on my bumper!!!! How on earth did that get past quality
control? That soon proved to be the least of our problems, my
girlfriend drove the car from its parking bay to the reception so we
could complain, I walked behind and noticed a rather loud squeak coming
from the engine.  When I asked the assistant manager Alan about this,
stating "You told me my car was ready" he said "It Is", but its
squeaking!!! "Yes," he said "that's the engine". Now maybe
its just me, but when I have a car crash, and it gets repaired... id
like the FECKING ENGINE REPAIRED TOO!  Oh, and while the monkeys were
looking at the engine, we noticed the bumper hadn't been fitted
properly, and the paint job was awful.  Needles to say, we left our car
there, to be repaired.

They sent my car off to ford for the engine, Ford replaced a fan belt.
Squeak stopped.  Then when I phone the garage to find out whats
happening with my car, they tell me they've just noticed that my
airbox is cracked!!!!! How on earth could they take my engine out and
put it back in with noticing that!???

Eventually got a phone call THREE MONTHS after the accident, saying my
car was ready again, great I think... this time I'll bring my digital
camera. Here's a list of things wrong with my car :-
Drivers side headlight proud of the bonnet.
Large uneven gap down drivers side of bonnet.
Bonnet gap is not even across the front.
Bonnet sits to low, now even with the wings.
Bonnet when closed, isn't level with the front bumper.
'Bits' have dried into the paint on the front bumper.
Drivers side wheel arch paint has blistered in two places.
Dent in drivers side bumper and wing.
Dent in passenger side 'B' pillar.
Passenger side door sill not fitted, causing a noise while driving.
Bumpers do not have even gaps to the body work.
Drivers leather seat very scuffed, all other seats perfect, rough
overalls?
Part of the wiring loom is coming out at the bonnet release catch under
steering column
The power steering and engine coolant levels are way above the MAX
line, shows complete lack of care.

Soooooo, bonnets not aligned, not even close, and because the gaps are
uneven, it means theres bent metal somewhere!  Paint job is once again
awful, two parts were actually blistered, I think the tech term is
Pickled? How did my car pass the quality control?  The thing that
really got me is my drivers side full leather seat is scuffed really
badly, I keep my car in great condition, and its really p*ssed me off
that they've damaged my seats.

This is still ongoing.  But I didn't want to wait any longer before
posting.

Anyway, I have lots of pictures to prove ALL of the above claims I've
made. And, yes, a website is in progress, detailing EVERYTHING.

Basically if your with direct line, phone them and make sure that you
can choose which garage you'd like to take your car too.  Also,
direct line have been cr*p at handling this case, they don't call you
back, and I've had to arrange everything myself. (other than the
roadside pickup).

If you've had an experience with Nationwide Crash Repair, please post
here, I've spoken to so many people who have been messed about by
them, but there's nothing on the web!
=AB Paul =BB - 17 May 2005 00:57 GMT
> On my way to work, a women driver, in a skoda, pulled out on me on a
> round about... I hit her, we were both OK, no broken bones, but my car
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> roadside within an hour, dropped me off home then dropped my car off at
> NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR in Bletchley.

We don't have NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR in Texas.
For that matter, no skodas or Bletchleys either.
Frustrated Car Owner - 17 May 2005 10:44 GMT
> We don't have NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR in Texas.
> For that matter, no skodas or Bletchleys either.

Terribly sorry old chap, I was referring to place in England called
Milton Keynes.  I didn't realise that REC.AUTOS.TECH was only for
Texan's, I assumed that it was for the global community of the
Internet.  I don't know what I was thinking...  Skoda is a car
manufactor, who are the butt of all car jokes, Bletchley is a place in
Milton Keynes.
HLS@nospam.nix - 25 May 2005 12:25 GMT
>  Skoda is a car manufactor, who are the butt of all car jokes

Skoda was typical of  eastern bloc auto manufacturers several years ago,
and the product quality was poor.  Of course, some of the English cars
of that time were so bad that it still causes other Europeans to avoid them.

Skoda is now owned by Volkswagen, quality appears to be in line with
Volkswagen
tradition, and one would not necessarily be ashamed to drive one of them.
foobarian - 09 Jun 2005 15:15 GMT
I take exception to that :)  Old Czech Skodas were extremely reliable,
simply built and therefore easy to hack, and geared for extreme slopes-
important in my hilly part of the world.  Not very powerful though.  I
still have a lot of respect for Czech machine making.
Jasper Janssen - 12 Jun 2005 21:47 GMT
>I take exception to that :)  Old Czech Skodas were extremely reliable,
>simply built and therefore easy to hack, and geared for extreme slopes-
>important in my hilly part of the world.  Not very powerful though.  I
>still have a lot of respect for Czech machine making.

They were also known for being rustbuckets even after the French and
Italians started losing that rep, and were known for having reliability
problems (although that might not be backed up by statistics -- it may
just be that the trim fell off early, and not that the engine wouldn't
go).

Ladas, OTOH, were known for being one of the first cars to get rear window
wipers, so as to warm your hands while pushing.

Jasper
Frustrated Car Owner - 14 Jun 2005 20:36 GMT
Well, I have an update on my car!

After my ordeal with Nationwide Crash Repair, I took my car to T.A.B.S
Enterprises in Wavendon, also in Milton Keynes (UK), after being
examined for a week, and put on a jig, it was found to be out of
alignment!!!  The Mechanic (very polite and helpful guy called Tim)
said the car is allowed to be out by 3-4mm, I looked at the jig report,
and some measurements were over 15mm out!  My car was too low, too long
and generally, every measurement that was taken was out!

T.A.B.S garage phoned Nationwide Crash Repair to see if they wanted to
see the car whilst it was still on the jig, Tabs would keep it there
for two days.... Nationwide DECLIGNED the offer, if it was me, I'd
check because I'd be confident of my workmanship, and I'd believe the
other garage would be at fault.

Anyway, the end of this story is that between the garage (TABS) and
Direct Line (my insurance co) they have decided to write my car off!
I've accepted a reasonable offer.  I'm glad it was written off in the
end as I never would've been able to fully trust the repairs.

A quick re-cap,  My car crash = Feb 16th 2005, Write off date June 9th
2005!  Now I'm looking at a new Fiesta Zetec-S, hmmmmm sporty.

Now, I'm not just someone who badmouths companies... I would like to
praise T.A.B.S Enterprises in Wavendon, although they didn't need to
carry any repairs out on my car, they were extremely polite and helpful
every step of the way, and, after seeing many cars in their garage on
the occasions I had to visit them, can say their quality of work seems
VERY high.

NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR IN BLETCHLEY MILTON KEYNES WERE HAPPY TO GIVE
ME BACK MY CAR IN A STATE WHERE IT SHOULD'VE BEEN A WRITE OFF, EVEN
THOUGH THEY KNOW I USE MY CAR TO TRANSPORT MY STEP-DAUGHTER AND HER
FRIENDS.  AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR ARE HAPPY
TO ENDANGER A CHILDS LIFE IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.  NATIONWIDE AREN'T
GETTING PAID FOR THIS JOB NOW EITHER HAH HAH HA GOOD, YOU DON'T
DESERVE A PENNY YOU F**KING COWBOYS.
mjt - 17 May 2005 13:11 GMT
> > On my way to work, a women driver, in a skoda, pulled out on me on a
> > round about... I hit her, we were both OK, no broken bones, but my car
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> We don't have NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR in Texas.
> For that matter, no skodas or Bletchleys either.

... this in an international newsgroup, as much as we Texans
like to think we're a country to ourselves :)

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Al Bundy - 17 May 2005 14:14 GMT
I feel your pain sir and will never ever take my car to Nationwide.
Comboverfish - 17 May 2005 20:17 GMT
I don't have any exemplary body repair stories to share.  There's
always been something that wasn't fixed to my satisfaction: a paint
blemish, poor finish, really long turnaround time etc...

That aside, here's a little usenet tip:

While attempting to either elict empathy from or warn of your
unsatisfactory repair to a usenet group full of mechanics and car
enthusiasts you may find the phrases "thieving fecking chav mechanic"
and "monkeys" to prove counter productive.

Toyota MDT in MO

> Hey,
>
[quoted text clipped - 93 lines]
> here, I've spoken to so many people who have been messed about by
> them, but there's nothing on the web!
mjt - 17 May 2005 21:19 GMT
("Comboverfish" <comboverfish@yahoo.com>) scribbled:

> While attempting to either elict empathy from or warn of your
> unsatisfactory repair to a usenet group full of mechanics and car
> enthusiasts you may find the phrases "thieving fecking chav mechanic"
> and "monkeys" to prove counter productive.

... but we all know flaming is commonplace in USENET and
a part of it's "culture"  :)

at least, if you plan to offend many and you dont want any
repercussions, simply nymshift!

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Frustrated Car Owner - 18 May 2005 12:01 GMT
> While attempting to either elict empathy from or warn of your
> unsatisfactory repair to a usenet group full of mechanics and car
> enthusiasts you may find the phrases "thieving fecking chav mechanic"
> and "monkeys" to prove counter productive.

True.  I didn't mean any offence to mechanics in general, I wasn't
referring to all garages/mechanics, indeed a good friend of mine, and
my uncle both used to own and run garages.  I was only referring to the
workmanship and attitude of this particular company and its workers, in
my opinion, the employee's of Nationwide Crash Repair in Bletchley are
'Monkeys' as they show no pride in their work, and demonstrate complete
lack of skill and care.  I too am a car enthusiast, and am a member of
the Ford KA Owners Club of Great Brittan, www.KaKlub.co.uk
Comboverfish - 18 May 2005 15:21 GMT
I feel your pain and understand completely.  If I was independently
wealthy I would seriously consider roaming the country with a
deliberately bugged car to catch incompetent and dishonest mechanics
who gave it improper diagnosis / bogus upsells.  Then I would post an
internet newsletter documenting the good and the bad mechanics/shops.
Possibly even get in some fights (hopefully).  That's how much I hate
criminal mechanics.  They destroy our industry simply with incompetence
and greed.  The good mechanics tend to spend time just deflecting guff
from worried and jaded customers.

Now all I need to do is get independently wealthy.  Sounds easy
enough...

Toyota MDT in MO

> > While attempting to either elict empathy from or warn of your
> > unsatisfactory repair to a usenet group full of mechanics and car
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> lack of skill and care.  I too am a car enthusiast, and am a member of
> the Ford KA Owners Club of Great Brittan, www.KaKlub.co.uk
Shep - 18 May 2005 17:29 GMT
>I feel your pain and understand completely.  If I was independently
> wealthy I would seriously consider roaming the country with a
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> of
>> the Ford KA Owners Club of Great Brittan, www.KaKlub.co.uk
=AB Paul =BB - 19 May 2005 01:04 GMT
> > While attempting to either elict empathy from or warn of your
> > unsatisfactory repair to a usenet group full of mechanics and car
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> lack of skill and care.  I too am a car enthusiast, and am a member of
> the Ford KA Owners Club of Great Brittan, www.KaKlub.co.uk

And I did not mean any offense either.
I was just pulling your leg... so to speak.
Welcome to newsgrouping.  It's not all bad.
Actually, I know about Skodas, and Bletchley Park.
Never been there but I was within 60km earlier this year.
Paul.
Jasper Janssen - 08 Jun 2005 23:27 GMT
>While attempting to either elict empathy from or warn of your
>unsatisfactory repair to a usenet group full of mechanics and car
>enthusiasts you may find the phrases "thieving fecking chav mechanic"
>and "monkeys" to prove counter productive.

Since the mechanic in question stole a valuable item from the car, it's
not unreasonable to call it a thieving chav. Given what he says about the
'workmanship' of the mechanics there in general, calling them monkeys
instead of mechanics seems to me to be a compliment to real mechanics.

Jasper
nobody - 18 May 2005 03:58 GMT
Just another reason I'd never live outside of the US... it's too much of a
hassle to own a car anywhere else.

> Hey,
>
> I've never bothered to post to a newsgroup before, but this is
> something people need to know!  This may be a bit long, but if you're
> thinking about taking your car to NATIONWIDE CRASH REPAIR then please
> read this. You'll thank me for it!
 
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