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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / July 2005

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Verdadero - 04 Jul 2005 23:30 GMT
Methanol being unacceptable is true.  Ethanol is OK upto 20%  but methanol
spells death to consumer cars, methanol over 6% in your fuel requires
serious modifications so forget it

As of 85% ethanol i dont know, what I do know is that my 2004 Nissan Sentra
now makes 40+ mpg and will even go up!  I use a simple physics law: it takes
energy to accelerate weight, I reduce that weight.  I went to extreme by
removing spare tire the FIRST day of drving it in September 2004 as I am
covered for 2 years roadside and take spar eONLy to 100+ mile trips from
home and heck I might never load it, removed back seat, visors, trunk is
empty, installed ALUMINUM LIGHT_WEIGHT ALLOY wheels with strength rating
equal or better than original steel, this reduces unsprung weight->reduces
train on engine to accelerate and brake,
I use a real oil and not dirt-cheap petro-junk sold in conveneince stores, I
am an engineer and always try to find the bes tspecifications and
environmentally-wise which happens to be AMSOIl and not Mobil as most fo you
ar ebrainwashed to believe, AMSOIl synthetic 5W30.

I am myself 5'7 and skinny, light clothes, etc etc th ebottom light this car
is like a motorocycle now, light, excellent handling, people drop theoi
rjaws when they see a cheap Sentraaccelerating and braking instantly like a
Ferrai.  And whole deal cost me now $19K, i am nto complaining I am happy an
ddont need 85% rethanol and DONT CARE FOR RISING GAS COSTS, MORONS WHO BUY
HAMMERS AND FULLSIZED SUV'S ARE TRULLY MORONS AND CRIMINALS AGAINS TNATURE
HLS@nospam.nix - 05 Jul 2005 00:08 GMT
Hugo Schmeisser - 05 Jul 2005 02:49 GMT
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> And whole deal cost me now $19K, i am nto
> complaining I am happy an ddont need 85% rethanol and DONT CARE FOR
> RISING GAS COSTS,

So you spent $19,000 to save $500 in gas? As an economy strategy your
system leaves a little to be desired...
JazzMan - 05 Jul 2005 03:24 GMT
> <snip...>
>
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> So you spent $19,000 to save $500 in gas? As an economy strategy your
> system leaves a little to be desired...

Actually, figure a large SUV runs $30-40k easy, he saved
$500 gas and $10-20K in vehicle purchase costs, and likely
saves another $1k in insurance, $500 or more in tire replacement
costs, etc.

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Verdadero - 05 Jul 2005 03:59 GMT
No I spent this to avoid being another BORING shoe on the streets and cities
with a million look-alike silver-color shoe-shaped cars.

My fuel efficiency did NOT require much investment, it's all about weight
reduction and only major expense was Aluminum wheels
Verdadero - 05 Jul 2005 04:03 GMT
Also, it's all about dollars, when we die we see our maker and every
decision you made in thi slife will be examined, my point is besides saving
fuel is saving environment, anything heavy and wastefull is a pollutant.
This Sentra is PZEV already (partially zeroemissions vehicle), when idle i
sense pure warm air, not a hint of stench I used to get from old Oldsmobile
I sold after 4 months of suffering, it's a clean efficient machine and my
point was to take it even further by reducin gweight, unspring weight
(wheels), AMSOIL synth oil, premkum gas, and TAKING SUBWAY WHENEVER
POSSIBLE, i hat ebus but subwy in New York City is often  faster/much
cheaper than guzzling around, this car is primarily for fun/weekends
Verdadero - 05 Jul 2005 05:12 GMT
sorry i meant NOT ALL ABOUT DOLLARS, MY TYPO COMPLETELY REVERSED TH EMEANING
OF MY ARTICLE
BillyBBad - 05 Jul 2005 14:20 GMT
>sorry i meant NOT ALL ABOUT DOLLARS, MY TYPO COMPLETELY REVERSED TH EMEANING
>OF MY ARTICLE
I don't have a clue as to what type of "engineer" you consider yourself to be
(maybe it's a title of some certificate you got from Microsoft, but Microsoft
doesn't get to certify "engineers" in my profession), but you need to slow
down your presentation, and check your spelling, often.
I doubt you've seen a Ferrari "in action" except for the things on TV races.
Even Ferrari cannot make a Sentra perform as one, I doubt you have the skills
either, but  you're correct that lightening the engine's load will increase
the performance where it counts.
I followed you up to the point where you consider that your creator (come on
out and tell us who that is) cares enough to be testing us on our earthly
sojourn as to whether we've used our minimal allotment of gasoline/petroleum
products.  IMO the petroleum's been around longer than most biblical zealots
will admit to the age of the planet, and I've never seen any specific biblical
reference that the creator buried the stuff deep underground to prevent its
discovery until the last part of the last millenia.  IOW if we ever do meet a
cosmic thunderer, or classical biblical god, I doubt fuel consumption will be
high on the list of "sins" used to cast us into the lake of fire and brimstone
(and just what is he using to keep that thing going?).
There's a large portion of the human population that's never even ridden a
motor driven conveyance, according to your zealous logic, they're truely going
to be blessed.  If so, then it matters little that you're using up the
gasoline they're never going to need anyway.
You also have a huge misconception (thanks Nissan) about PZE.  First off,
idling, you're not ZE, in fact you're probably doing nearly the maximum
allowable by mandate emitting.
Nissan gets to slap the Sentra with PZE the same as any other manufacturer
can, you turn off fuel injectors during deceleration.  That's it.  There's not
more to PZE than that, does that mean there's no pollutants coming out of the
exhaust?  Nope, it means that for one injector's cycle, fuel wasn't
introduced, so there's no emissions for that one injector's cycle.  The ones
that did supply fuel probably did pollute, but hey, we need to make guys like
you feel good.
JP White - 09 Jul 2005 12:00 GMT
when idle i
> sense pure warm air, not a hint of stench I used to get from old Oldsmobile
> I sold after 4 months of suffering, it's a clean efficient machine

I suggest that you sit inside and idle your vehicle in a closed garage
for a few hours and report back to us how emissions free your vehicle
truly is.

JP

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Verdadero - 05 Jul 2005 05:12 GMT
sorry i meant NOT ALL ABOUT DOLLARS, MY TYPO COMPLETELY REVERSED TH EMEANING
OF MY ARTICLE
Jon C - 05 Jul 2005 13:25 GMT
>><snip...>
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> JazzMan
Nice.

I bought a Grand Am instead of a Bentley.

I've saved $200,000 already!
Hugo Schmeisser - 06 Jul 2005 17:33 GMT
> > > <snip...>
> > >
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>
> I've saved $200,000 already!

Today I absolutely refused to purchase a Maybach 62 (it was a difficult
decision), saving myself a cool $500,000. I think tomorrow I'll refuse
to buy a Lamborghini Murcielago.
JP White - 09 Jul 2005 12:11 GMT
> Today I absolutely refused to purchase a Maybach 62 (it was a difficult
> decision), saving myself a cool $500,000. I think tomorrow I'll refuse
> to buy a Lamborghini Murcielago.

I totally agree. I refused to buy these as well. I have been eying up a
Trek bicycle recently (they're really cheap compared to cars), the sales
guy claims it is totally emissons free, is very light as compared to the
average SUV and it has health benefits over SUV's such as reduced body
weight, blood pressure and cholesterol.

I am still trying figure out how I can attach a hitch to tow a trailer
and boat. For some reason no one sells one for a bicycle.

JP

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JazzMan - 09 Jul 2005 15:53 GMT
> > Today I absolutely refused to purchase a Maybach 62 (it was a difficult
> > decision), saving myself a cool $500,000. I think tomorrow I'll refuse
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I am still trying figure out how I can attach a hitch to tow a trailer
> and boat. For some reason no one sells one for a bicycle.

Yes, that's true. Considering that the vast majority of
SUVs and large trucks are never, ever used to tow anything,
much less a boat on a trailer, the point you make is very
small, very sharp, and well hidden by your hair.   :)

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I love Edsels - 10 Jul 2005 17:47 GMT
....................................snip............
>I am still trying figure out how I can attach a hitch to tow a trailer
>and boat. For some reason no one sells one for a bicycle.
>
>JP

..that'll be your hand. Anyone ever hookey-bob the school bus?
(snow required)
Don Stauffer - 05 Jul 2005 14:57 GMT
Driving style also seriously effects gas milage, especially if you drive
a stick shift.  With either style of  transmission, minimize brake use.
 Don't go roaring up to red lights and slam on brakes.

Consider- all the energy that is coming from the brakes in the form of
heat originally comes from gas tank.

If you have stick shift, accelerate moderately- not only slight
throttle- but shift as early as possible.  Coast a lot when necessary
(either shift into neutral or keep clutch in).  Play lights.

Stick shift subcompacts should all be capable of near 40 mpg.

Now, some of these recommendations go against the things some of use old
folks- I'm 67- were taught when we learned to drive.  But cars have
changed.  Lugging no longer hurts an engine like it used to (better
bearings, oil, crankshaft alloys), and clutch throwout bearings last
life of car now.  Lugging is okay as long as car does not shudder, and
with FI that means you can really lug her down.
Paul Hovnanian P.E. - 06 Jul 2005 03:47 GMT
> Driving style also seriously effects gas milage, especially if you drive
> a stick shift.  With either style of  transmission, minimize brake use.
>   Don't go roaring up to red lights and slam on brakes.

They say that the best way to improve your car's gas mileage is to
adjust the nut behind the steering wheel.

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alfredB18@prodigy.net - 06 Jul 2005 06:38 GMT
> <snip...>
>
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> So you spent $19,000 to save $500 in gas? As an economy strategy your
> system leaves a little to be desired...

Agreed.  All that jazz could have been done on a $500 beater.  Okay,
maybe not quite that good, but lighten up a Metro or Festiva and you
still have a shoe-box unibody car that gets 40mpgs.  Like a Sentra.

Big deal.
culfan - 05 Jul 2005 02:55 GMT
You gotta be kidding...

> I am an engineer
Ashton Crusher - 05 Jul 2005 04:59 GMT
>You gotta be kidding...
>
>> I am an engineer

He's a troll.
Verdadero - 05 Jul 2005 05:13 GMT
John S. - 06 Jul 2005 20:01 GMT
> I use a real oil and not dirt-cheap petro-junk sold in conveneince stores, I
> am an engineer and always try to find the bes tspecifications and
> environmentally-wise which happens to be AMSOIl and not Mobil as most fo you
> ar ebrainwashed to believe, AMSOIl synthetic 5W30.

Why is Amsoil any better than Mobil 1.

I've read the information on their home website as well as some of
their dealers, and to be honest I don't trust them because of the
overhyped advertising and outright bashing they engage in.  I feel like
I have to wash the oil off my hands after visiting their website.
HLS@nospam.nix - 11 Jul 2005 00:02 GMT
> > I use a real oil and not dirt-cheap petro-junk sold in conveneince stores, I
> > am an engineer and always try to find the bes tspecifications and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> overhyped advertising and outright bashing they engage in.  I feel like
> I have to wash the oil off my hands after visiting their website.

You and millions of others.  Whether or not Amsoil is worth a damn, their
marketing
tactics and unfounded claims make them highly suspicious.
 
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