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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / July 2005

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leave timing belt cover off?

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ant - 11 Jul 2005 22:23 GMT
im getting a used escort and want to change the timing belt,
preventatively. its non-interference.

is there any reason why the belt cover *has* to be on?

someone has brought up the alt/ac/etc belt being uncovered as evidence
that it'll work ok.

id like to leave it off, becuase its such a freaking pain in the neck
to get on and off. and ill likely break it anyway;)

curious,
anthony
* - 11 Jul 2005 22:42 GMT
ant <dummyaccount@electricant.net> wrote in article
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> im getting a used escort and want to change the timing belt,
> preventatively. its non-interference.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> curious,
> anthony

A small stone between the alternator belt and its pulley is a
nuisance......

A small stone between a timing belt and its sprocket could mean a MAJOR
repair.....
Jim Vatunz - 12 Jul 2005 04:07 GMT
>ant <dummyaccount@electricant.net> wrote in article
><1121117123.029157.206870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>A small stone between a timing belt and its sprocket could mean a MAJOR
>repair.....

He just said it's a non-interference engine so that eliminates the
major repair scenario.
I did it years ago on one of my old cars with no dramas. Sure it keeps
dust out, cuts down noise and the worry of poking a finger in there
but not having it on makes it dead simple to inspect for wear or
replace.
I don't remember having any dramas at all from leaving it off.
Ask some of those riders of those lumbering USA built motorcycles if
they've ever caught a rock in the belt. It'd be somewhat more unusual
to have one fly into the timing belt area i'd imagine.

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wws - 12 Jul 2005 04:20 GMT
>>ant <dummyaccount@electricant.net> wrote in article
>><1121117123.029157.206870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
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> http://members.iinet.net.au/~farmerjim/log/log.html
> It's boring but it's something.
Jeez, dropped an aircleaner nut down a Renault carb once.
That was drama.
Passed the valve nice as you please and locked it up. On start.
Mister magnet through the sparkplug hole fixed it though.
New underwear for me. he he
Jim Vatunz - 12 Jul 2005 08:55 GMT
>>>ant <dummyaccount@electricant.net> wrote in article
>>><1121117123.029157.206870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
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>Mister magnet through the sparkplug hole fixed it though.
>New underwear for me. he he

Haven't done that but 20 years ago the dodgy bolt that held on a poxy
aftermarket air filter that someone had affixed to a 105e Ford Anglia
that i had bought, came free and dropped down the carby throat jamming
it open. I suppose that's why we have ignition switches.

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Mark - 14 Jul 2005 14:21 GMT
how did you know which spakplug to go for?

Mark
wws - 14 Jul 2005 18:46 GMT
> how did you know which spakplug to go for?
>
> Mark

If you mean me,
There were 2 up and 2 down.
Some light in the holes narrowed it to one.

wws
Steve W. - 12 Jul 2005 17:10 GMT
> >ant <dummyaccount@electricant.net> wrote in article
> ><1121117123.029157.206870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> --

Actually that IS a big problem on hogs. That is why most have belt
guards and still have problems.

REAL stupid to leave the cover off over a timing belt. Only takes one
pebble or a finger to show you that.
tudysmuck@yahoo.com - 11 Jul 2005 23:01 GMT
would you like a door on your car if you got hit on that side or not
???
what a pain in the a.s to open and close a door ?

well that sums it up :)
Louis M. Brown - 12 Jul 2005 00:24 GMT
>im getting a used escort and want to change the timing belt,
>preventatively. its non-interference.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>curious,
>anthony

One bit of debris in the cam(s) could mean a broken belt (at best!) or
a wasted cam (or cams, if DOHC)

Put the cover back on it.

-LMB
ed - 12 Jul 2005 03:27 GMT
I'd think you'd be changing the belt more often with it off versus keeping
the belt free of gunk with the cover on. Those other exposed belts don't
have crucial precise teeth which need to be kept clean.  If your AC belt
blows, you won't necessarily be stranded.
my .02

> im getting a used escort and want to change the timing belt,
> preventatively. its non-interference.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> curious,
> anthony
Al Bundy - 12 Jul 2005 12:16 GMT
I don't know if it applies to the Escort. What I did with a Vega is cut
the cover so it could be installed in two pieces. That saved removal
time and also allowed me to pull the cover back to inspect for belt
wear. The belt was still protected from debris.
William R. Watt - 12 Jul 2005 13:52 GMT
The timing belt cover on my Festiva comes in two pieces.
I've removed the top half to look at the belt.

> I don't know if it applies to the Escort. What I did with a Vega is cut
> the cover so it could be installed in two pieces. That saved removal
> time and also allowed me to pull the cover back to inspect for belt
> wear. The belt was still protected from debris.

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Mike Romain - 12 Jul 2005 15:18 GMT
I drove a car like that once.  I hit a ridge of snow from someone
shoveling their driveway and the belt blew off.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> im getting a used escort and want to change the timing belt,
> preventatively. its non-interference.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> curious,
> anthony
 
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