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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / July 2005

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es - 13 Jul 2005 02:38 GMT
hi i just got an auto meter air to fuel ratio gauge in my 1990 saab
9000 turbo and its going crazy like it goes back and forth really fast
when i am not touching the gas pedal at all

what is the problem

if you have one of thees gauges let me kno how it is
MasterBlaster - 13 Jul 2005 12:44 GMT
> hi i just got an auto meter air to fuel ratio gauge in my 1990 saab
> 9000 turbo and its going crazy like it goes back and forth really fast
> when i am not touching the gas pedal at all

How fast is "really fast"?

A normal car (computer, fuel injection, O2 sensors), doesn't keep
the air/fuel ratio the same all the time. It's actually going rich, lean,
rich, lean, rich, lean all the time, maybe up to 10 times per second.

It does this for a few reasons, the main one being to check the O2 sensors.

The computer makes the engine run rich, and expects the O2 sensors
to indicate "rich", within a certain time, and to the level it instructed.
It then goes lean, and expects the O2 sensors to follow with a "lean" signal.
If the sensors don't follow fast enough, or far enough, the computer assumes
there's a problem, sets an error code, and turns on the Check Engine light.

Those gauges are actually designed for carbureted cars, so you can tune it
up without sticking your face behind the tailpipe to see if it smells like gas.
Thomas Tornblom - 13 Jul 2005 14:10 GMT
> hi i just got an auto meter air to fuel ratio gauge in my 1990 saab
> 9000 turbo and its going crazy like it goes back and forth really fast
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>
> if you have one of thees gauges let me kno how it is

I assume it uses a narrow band oxygen sensor, as most such gauges
do. They  really aren't designed to be used like this. They only
reliably indicate rich or lean.

You need a wideband analyzer if you want reliable data.

Thomas
Bruce Chang - 13 Jul 2005 16:08 GMT
> hi i just got an auto meter air to fuel ratio gauge in my 1990 saab
> 9000 turbo and its going crazy like it goes back and forth really fast
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> if you have one of thees gauges let me kno how it is

I have an A/F ratio gauge and it appears you don't know what it does.  Why
did you install it in the first place?  If you RTFM, maybe you'd understand
why it's doing what it's doing.
Mark - 14 Jul 2005 14:16 GMT
think of it more like the thermostat in your house that says too cold
or too hot instead of a thermoneter that actually reads the
temperature.

Mark
 
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