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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2005

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Update: Failed HVAC Fan on 2001 DeVille

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frank1492 - 12 Aug 2005 02:06 GMT
Today the fan started up on its own and all was normal for several
hours. Then it stopped again.
     I suspect the relay. Any other ideas?
    I may very well try my own repair. Access to the motor and
module requires removal of the glove box. I was told by the
dealer that the relay is in there somewhere, rather than on one
of the two main fuse/relay panels.
    The dealer charges $125 an hour for labor, BTW!
         Frank
Comboverfish - 12 Aug 2005 06:28 GMT
Cadillac has had their share of problems with the "power module" which
is a transistorized speed control device which takes the place of a
blower resistor.  I can't keep SeVilles and DeVilles straight, but one
or both of those models and their GM counterparts use a blower motor
which has an integrated power module.

Look under the hood on the passenger side firewall for the blower
motor.  If it has three wires going to it then you have this design
which is a high failure item.  Aside from the typical GM failures in
power modules, the motor is positioned near engine heat and can cause
quick death.  Even though your description sounds like the power module
is intermittantly opening, this failure can be caused by the motor
drawing too much current.  At any rate, the blower is an assembly so
test it and replace it if necessary.

While the blower is currently inop, check that one wire has 12v, one
wire is a solid ground (<.2v), and the third wire is aproximately 3-6
volts or so.

Test by backprobing the connector with it attached to the motor and set
the controls to operate the fan at a medium speed.

You say that the blower is accessible from the glove box.  If this is
true, then the bodystyle has changed on or around 2001 and it is a
different system.  Same test rules apply, but the power module may a
seperate unit mounted in the blower housing with self tapping screws.

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frank1492 - 16 Aug 2005 03:22 GMT
Thanks for your help. I am told I have an "intermittent short on the
motor." I think this translates into a bad connection. The dealer
disturbed the assembly today when he diagnosed it and it ran fine
for awhile after that. It periodically comes and goes. When it "comes"
it is fine in every way with full speed range.

>Cadillac has had their share of problems with the "power module" which
>is a transistorized speed control device which takes the place of a
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>Toyota MDT in MO
Comboverfish - 16 Aug 2005 14:41 GMT
> Thanks for your help. I am told I have an "intermittent short on the
> motor." I think this translates into a bad connection. The dealer
> disturbed the assembly today when he diagnosed it and it ran fine
> for awhile after that. It periodically comes and goes. When it "comes"
> it is fine in every way with full speed range.

I'll simplify the diagnosis.  If you have three wires going to the
motor connector, then replace the motor.  That style has virtually
everything that can go wrong in one assembly.  Check the tension on the
female wire terminals at it's connector to be sure they are tight and
corrosion-free.

Toyota MDT in MO
 
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