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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2005

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afdr9lk - 13 Aug 2005 04:49 GMT
Just finished getting beat to hell in the compact class.
I ran an 83 Chevy Cavalier 2.0 auto.  The body held up
absolutely great compared to the others.  I stopped
moving after some hard hits.  My left front tire was
off the bead so I hoped the rim was spinning in the tire
but there was no smoke.  Several spectators said the
rim wasn't moving.  They towed me out and I started it
and actually drove it onto the trailer.  It had plenty
of fluid.  It's in good shape to run again next year
assuming I put in a new tranny.  I've done everthing
to cars except tear into a auto trans.  I would love
to take it out make it bullet proof (if even for just
1st and reverse) weld up the spiders and put it back in.
Any tips on what typically goes wrong with this type
of tranny?  Are these weak trannys?  (I know these
are extreme conditions!)
Daniel J. Stern - 13 Aug 2005 17:57 GMT
> Just finished getting beat to hell in the compact class. I ran an 83
> Chevy Cavalier 2.0 auto. I stopped moving after some hard hits.  It had
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> tips on what typically goes wrong with this type of tranny?  Are these
> weak trannys?  (I know these are extreme conditions!)

Extremely *stupid* conditions...
Edward  Strauss - 17 Aug 2005 09:48 GMT
> > Just finished getting beat to hell in the compact class. I ran an 83
> > Chevy Cavalier 2.0 auto. I stopped moving after some hard hits.  It had
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > tips on what typically goes wrong with this type of tranny?  Are these
> > weak trannys?  (I know these are extreme conditions!)

> Extremely *stupid* conditions...

Of course you know this because you were there???  Back to the OP's
question, These were not bad transmissions, what all was tore up besides
the front tire?? Was the lower control arm mashed in with the axle up
against the case? What noise did the tranny make when you put it in gear?
Since it did work when it cooled down it really leaves alot to look at.
I would start at the engine and transaxle mounts, see whats left of them.
Sidecover, etc the same...
 
Steve - 17 Aug 2005 16:39 GMT
Edward Strauss wrote:

>>>Just finished getting beat to hell in the compact class. I ran an 83
>>>Chevy Cavalier 2.0 auto. I stopped moving after some hard hits.  It had
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> Sidecover, etc the same...
>  

Not to mention little stuff, like bent or broken shift linkage so that
it wouldn't go into the gear you thought you were selecting.

Yeah, demo derby is stupid.... if you use collectable cars or cars that
could supply parts for collectables. But its the perfect fate for a
Cavalier... :-p  And it sure is fun! :-)
afdr9lk - 18 Aug 2005 02:53 GMT
Edward Strauss wrote:

>>>Just finished getting beat to hell in the compact class. I ran an 83
>>>Chevy Cavalier 2.0 auto. I stopped moving after some hard hits.  It had
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Sidecover, etc the same...
>  

The car is in fine shape.  I'm going to run it again next year if
I fix/replace the tranny.  No damage at all to the drive train.  The
car does not move in any gear 1,2,D,R except very slightly sometimes.
I can hear a lot of noise which I thought was a rod knocking but now
I suspect the drive chain may be slipping?
Edward  Strauss - 18 Aug 2005 06:41 GMT
> Edward Strauss wrote:
> >
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> > Sidecover, etc the same...
> >  

> The car is in fine shape.  I'm going to run it again next year if
> I fix/replace the tranny.  No damage at all to the drive train.  The
> car does not move in any gear 1,2,D,R except very slightly sometimes.
> I can hear a lot of noise which I thought was a rod knocking but now
> I suspect the drive chain may be slipping?

Since you have the benefit of being able to see/hear the problem I
suspect that you are right. Or the converter is bouncing around on
a busted pump housing...
afdr9lk - 19 Aug 2005 04:00 GMT
Edward Strauss wrote:
>>The car is in fine shape.  I'm going to run it again next year if
>>I fix/replace the tranny.  No damage at all to the drive train.  The
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> suspect that you are right. Or the converter is bouncing around on
> a busted pump housing...

Is the chain/gears a common failure?
Edward  Strauss - 19 Aug 2005 08:30 GMT
> Edward Strauss wrote:
> >>The car is in fine shape.  I'm going to run it again next year if
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> > suspect that you are right. Or the converter is bouncing around on
> > a busted pump housing...

> Is the chain/gears a common failure?

No, not in my experiences.
John S. - 19 Aug 2005 14:06 GMT
> Just finished getting beat to hell in the compact class.
> I ran an 83 Chevy Cavalier 2.0 auto.  The body held up
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> Any tips on what typically goes wrong with this type
> of tranny?

> Are these weak trannys?  (I know these
> are extreme conditions!)

What an simple minded statement...good gawd!!  What would ever give you
the idea that manufacturers would consider the habits of drivers who
repeatedly crash junk cars into one another.
 
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