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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / August 2005

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Strength of Impact Wrench to Remove Caliper Bracket Bolts?

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jim - 16 Aug 2005 04:52 GMT
Looks like I better buy an impact wrench since these caliper bracker
bolts don't want to come off (used PB, propane torch, etc).  I've
stripped nuts, broken tools, etc.  Basically, what do I need to get the
job done as far as specs go on the wrench if I go electric (as far as
torque is concerned)?  I dont want to spend too much for a wrench that
is overkill, but I just want to get the job done right and over with.

Thanks,
Jim
=AB Paul =BB - 16 Aug 2005 05:08 GMT
> Looks like I better buy an impact wrench since these caliper bracker
> bolts don't want to come off (used PB, propane torch, etc).  I've
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> Thanks,
> Jim

Better get a good one: 200-300 ft lbs.
I have an old, old Porter-Cable that would cost about $250 today.
It comes in handy for field service with a heavy extension cord.
A good item to have, although I rarely use it.
Al Bundy - 16 Aug 2005 12:10 GMT
Nothing says an impact wrench will get the bolts off either now.
Perhaps you should think in terms of cutting nuts and drilling bolts.
That would not have been the first choice, but now maybe it should be
as you can predict you will be done in short order.
HLS@nospam.nix - 16 Aug 2005 14:09 GMT
> Looks like I better buy an impact wrench since these caliper bracker
> bolts don't want to come off (used PB, propane torch, etc).  I've
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thanks,
> Jim

A good breakover bar and *  really good sockets or torx bits * are cheaper
and you
can probably apply more torque.  The hammering of an impact wrench is
certainly
an advantage.  I have an electric Hitachi.  There are probably better around
but I
got a good buy on this one on Ebay and it had done everything I could ask of
it.
marks542004@yahoo.com - 16 Aug 2005 17:35 GMT
> > Looks like I better buy an impact wrench since these caliper bracker
> > bolts don't want to come off (used PB, propane torch, etc).  I've
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> got a good buy on this one on Ebay and it had done everything I could ask of
> it.

Get a workshop manual and look up the torque settings for the types of
things you work on. Then get a wrench at least 50% higher capacity.
200- 300 ft lbs as another poster suggested sounds about right.
Ryan Underwood - 16 Aug 2005 20:17 GMT
>Looks like I better buy an impact wrench since these caliper bracker
>bolts don't want to come off (used PB, propane torch, etc).  I've
>stripped nuts, broken tools, etc.  Basically, what do I need to get the
>job done as far as specs go on the wrench if I go electric (as far as
>torque is concerned)?  I dont want to spend too much for a wrench that
>is overkill, but I just want to get the job done right and over with.

If you've already rounded off the nuts or bolt heads, an impact tool isn't
going to be much help.  Start looking at a big pair of vise grips, the rounded
bolt removers that Sears sells, and at the end just cutting off the nut or
grinding the head off the bolt in question.  I had a similar situation recently
and in the end I just ground off the bolt head with a dremel.  Would have saved
myself a lot of trouble if I had done that to begin with.
HLS@nospam.nix - 16 Aug 2005 21:34 GMT
"Ryan Underwood" <nemesis@icequake.net> wrote in message
> If you've already rounded off the nuts or bolt heads, an impact tool isn't
> going to be much help.  Start looking at a big pair of vise grips, the rounded
> bolt removers that Sears sells, and at the end just cutting off the nut or
> grinding the head off the bolt in question.  I had a similar situation recently
> and in the end I just ground off the bolt head with a dremel.  Would have saved
> myself a lot of trouble if I had done that to begin with.

Sometimes there is no other way, but usually you can loosen these, and most
other bolts, by using good tools and judicious technique.

Penetrating oil can be a big help, sometimes applied several times over a
period
of time.  (If you see the brake job coming, you can squirt the bolts every
evening
the whole week before you do the work, and drive it in between.  If you
cant, you cant)

Stay away from the vise grips unless all else fails.  These and cheap
wrenches bugger up
a lot of bolts.

If you dont get movement when you try to loosen the bolt, tighten it very
slightly and
attempt to loosen it again.  Sometimes this back and forth movement will
give you some
movement.

Those cheap mechanical impact wrenches can do a good job sometimes. Use a
good quality
bit or socket, and give it a sharp whack will a ball peen hammer.  A poor
man's delight, they
can save your hiney.

Heat helps, but again be judicious.
Alex Rodriguez - 17 Aug 2005 18:49 GMT
>I had a similar situation recently
>and in the end I just ground off the bolt head with a dremel.  Would have
>saved myself a lot of trouble if I had done that to begin with.

Unless it is a small bolt, I would pass on the dremel and get a 4 1/2 grinder
to grind it off.  I recently had to grind off some exhaust bolts and it was
taking me more than 1/2 hour using a dremel tool.  I got a 4 1/2" grinder and
finished each bolt in less than 5 minutes.  the dremel tool is very handy, but
sometimes you need something bigger with more power.
---------------
Alex
Mark - 19 Aug 2005 03:38 GMT
drive it to a garage and pay them $20 to "break the bolts loose" and
then re-tighten them just enough so you can drive it home

Mark
 
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