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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / September 2005

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Anyone repaired a star-crack in a wind screen?

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Dean - 27 Sep 2005 19:47 GMT
Got any tips? I have a 1-1/2" star crack in my rover's front
windscreen. A new window is $800. All tips and hints welcome!

Thanks

Dean
HLS@nospam.nix - 27 Sep 2005 20:10 GMT
> Got any tips? I have a 1-1/2" star crack in my rover's front
> windscreen. A new window is $800. All tips and hints welcome!
>
> Thanks
>
> Dean

I have repaired small stars and even cracks with the cheap kits available
from most
parts stores.  The smaller the crack or star, and the more diligently you
follow instructions,
the more likely you are to get a good job.

If I were you, I would take this to a professional and check it out.  I
would assume they
have better equipment than you get for ten bucks.  Let them have a go, or
try it yourself...
you almost certainly wont make it worse, and it may save your having to
invest in a new
windshield for a long time.

Finding a Rover windscreen in the USA might be a tall order UNLESS it is
shared with another
model car which might be more common here.  And that is a bit unlikely.

Where are you situated and what model Rover is involved?
Dean - 27 Sep 2005 21:51 GMT
Princeton, NJ. Discovery Series II.
Mike Romain - 27 Sep 2005 20:40 GMT
We got one about that size one week after putting a new one in...

We took it to the glass shop and his fix has held over 5 years.  It
wasn't too expensive.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> Got any tips? I have a 1-1/2" star crack in my rover's front
> windscreen. A new window is $800. All tips and hints welcome!
>
> Thanks
>
> Dean
Dean - 27 Sep 2005 21:50 GMT
Hmm didn't think of that. Thanks. Did it take long (have to stay over
night to dry, for example)?
Mike Romain - 27 Sep 2005 22:07 GMT
No it was an instant repair.  They used a vacuum style machine I believe
to suck all the air out of the crack and replace it with a glue of some
type.

This was a big nasty star right in the driver's vision bad enough the
cops would take issue with it for visibility.

I am in Canada so it sees hot and cold shocks and lots of trail twisting
and it is impressive.  Not a run.

I believe it was just a local Speedy Auto Glass that was recommended for
the replacement in the first place by a local 4x4 shop.

Instead of nailing us for another new one, he fixed it with no implied
warranty because of the size of the sucker.

I looked at the kits and well, there are reasons professionals that have
the correct tools do a better job 'usually'.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

> Hmm didn't think of that. Thanks. Did it take long (have to stay over
> night to dry, for example)?
mst - 27 Sep 2005 22:00 GMT
> Got any tips? I have a 1-1/2" star crack in my rover's front
> windscreen. A new window is $800. All tips and hints welcome!

Bring it to a glass shop.

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bob - 29 Sep 2005 04:29 GMT
> Got any tips? I have a 1-1/2" star crack in my rover's front
> windscreen. A new window is $800. All tips and hints welcome!
>
> Thanks
>
> Dean

I've done 2 of the auto parts store kits.  One worked very well, the other
didn't.  Neither ran though and I had the car probably 5 more years.  On the
one that didn't look fixed when done, I had problems getting the suction to
hold right  so the glue didn't get pushed into the crack as well.  I kinda
remember part of the crack ran under the stick on think that made the seal
so that may have been the root of the problem.

Again, first one you couldn't see when done and could see second but neither
ran.

bb
Dean - 29 Sep 2005 05:21 GMT
Ok thanks. Any idea of the inspection rules (I'm in NJ, btw)? I mean,
for the one that you said you could still see, did it sort of look
fixed or not?
Chas Hurst - 29 Sep 2005 05:26 GMT
> Ok thanks. Any idea of the inspection rules (I'm in NJ, btw)? I mean,
> for the one that you said you could still see, did it sort of look
> fixed or not?

I recently had a cracked windshield replaced at no cost by my comprehensive
insurance.
Dean - 29 Sep 2005 05:29 GMT
No deductable?
Chas Hurst - 29 Sep 2005 05:45 GMT
> No deductable?

If you are replying to my post, of course no deductable. What's the
difference in premium for ACV vs some deductable?
Dean - 29 Sep 2005 12:42 GMT
Chas,

I dunno, I thought more deductable means less premium generally.
Chas Hurst - 29 Sep 2005 13:54 GMT
> Chas,
>
> I dunno, I thought more deductable means less premium generally.

Of course it does. How much less? My ACV comprehensive costs me about $10 a
year more than $250 deductable. You do the math.
Dean - 29 Sep 2005 14:10 GMT
My insurance is so difficult - its like getting blood out of a stone
when it comes to rates. All changes have to be made and submitted
before they can tell you how much the rate will change! Which is why I
don't know how much the deductable works out to be. Thanks - I'll look
into it as it doesn't seem so much of an increase.

Cheers,
Dean
Ted Mittelstaedt - 30 Sep 2005 09:25 GMT
> My insurance is so difficult - its like getting blood out of a stone
> when it comes to rates. All changes have to be made and submitted
> before they can tell you how much the rate will change! Which is why I
> don't know how much the deductable works out to be. Thanks - I'll look
> into it as it doesn't seem so much of an increase.

With vehicle insurance what really drives up the rates are higher liability
limits on the medical (personal injury) stuff.

States that require auto insurance generally set a minimum coverage amount
for medical.  In Oregon, the state's standard liability coverage
requirements
are 25/50/10. That is $25,000 per individual for bodily injuries you cause
to
the other persons, and up to $50,000 for all, and $10,000 for damage you
cause to the other party's personal property. In addition Oregon requires
personal injury protection (PIP) with coverage up to a maximum of $10,000.
This last is because the state doesen't want to have a bunch of people
sucking
up the state money in the hospital emergency wards.

Most insurance agents will, of course, try to sell you policies that have
higher
minimums as they cost more and the agent gets a bigger commission.  If your
a property owner that might be advisable since if you total someone else's
brand new car, $10K isn't going to cover it and your going to get sued for
the balance, whereupon your going to lose your home.  If your a 20-something
that owns nothing, then you might as well carry the minimums since if that
does happen they know they won't get anything from you.

With comprehensive coverage, there's really not much more that those
policies cover other than the cost of your vehicle, that is why full
coverage
isn't that much more expensive.

Ted
HLS@nospam.nix - 30 Sep 2005 15:05 GMT
> > Chas,
> >
> > I dunno, I thought more deductable means less premium generally.
>
> Of course it does. How much less? My ACV comprehensive costs me about $10 a
> year more than $250 deductable. You do the math.

Im glad you posted this, Chas.  We sort of let the agent slide by on this,
and if it is only about $10
per year more, it could well be worth it.

But, another question,  my wife and I have rather immaculate driving
records, no tickets or accidents in
years.  We get the maximum good driving discount.

IF we had to have a windshield replaced, not at fault, would this drive up
the rates, and would there
be any difference to the scenario if we had full coverage versus $100
deductible?
Chas Hurst - 30 Sep 2005 15:35 GMT
> > > Chas,
> > >
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> be any difference to the scenario if we had full coverage versus $100
> deductible?

The windshield in my Benz 300TD was recently replaced. I cracked it loading
some 2X4s into the car. I called my agent and the windshield was replaced at
my home without a question as to the cause of damage. It cost me nothing and
did not change my rates.
If you have $100 deductable you will be resposible for the first $100 of the
repair bill.
I have been paid for other claims for substantially more than the cost of
replacing a windshield and my rates where never raised.
 
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