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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2005

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Mark W - 06 Nov 2005 18:00 GMT
I'm changing the intake manifold on my car, and there's a water channel in
the cylinder head that's going to end up being slightly exposed. That is,
the flange of the stock manifold covers it up, but the flange of the new
manifold covers about 3/4 of the hole only.

What is a good way to seal a water channel? I thought of putting a rubber
bung in it and relying on the new manifold's flange holding it in to seal
it...
HLS@nospam.nix - 06 Nov 2005 22:57 GMT
> I'm changing the intake manifold on my car, and there's a water channel in
> the cylinder head that's going to end up being slightly exposed. That is,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> bung in it and relying on the new manifold's flange holding it in to seal
> it...

IMHO, this is a little unusual.  If this is a water channel, is it not
needed in the
new application?

I have seen holes drilled and tapped, and fitted with plugs, and I have seen
them
welded shut and machined, but this is normally when the hole is not needed.

I admit that I am having trouble visualizing this, and am troubled by the
concept.
plainoldmechanic - 07 Nov 2005 00:30 GMT
me too, sounds to me like you have the wrong replacement manifold.
Mark W - 07 Nov 2005 18:41 GMT
> me too, sounds to me like you have the wrong replacement manifold.

No, it's the right one. Just from a different version of the same engine.

Maybe I shouldn't call it a water 'channel' as really it's just a place for
the coolant to meet the surface of the intake manifold flange. It doesn't
circulate round the manifold and come back via another hole, or anything
like that.
HLS@nospam.nix - 07 Nov 2005 19:34 GMT
> > me too, sounds to me like you have the wrong replacement manifold.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> circulate round the manifold and come back via another hole, or anything
> like that.

On a situation like this, if you are totally sure it is what you want to do,
I
would block it permanently with a plug, a plate, or a weld.  I just wouldnt
put my faith in epoxy putties , as good as some of them are.
Mike Romain - 09 Nov 2005 18:09 GMT
That really sounds like a heated intake for a carb engine.  It will run
like a bag of dirt when cold without it....

That said, there are a bunch of folks that swap heads on Jeep engines
and that requires filling a few water jacket holes.  They use JB Weld to
fill them.

While I would like the higher flowing head, there is just no freaking
way am I going to trust epoxy to hold forever in the extreme hot cold
that an engine head sees.  I would want a permanent fix like welding and
machining flat again or if it is a round hole, tapping and plugging it
with a steel plug and loctite on it's threads.

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> I'm changing the intake manifold on my car, and there's a water channel in
> the cylinder head that's going to end up being slightly exposed. That is,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> bung in it and relying on the new manifold's flange holding it in to seal
> it...
John S. - 09 Nov 2005 19:18 GMT
> I'm changing the intake manifold on my car, and there's a water channel in
> the cylinder head that's going to end up being slightly exposed. That is,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> bung in it and relying on the new manifold's flange holding it in to seal
> it...

Uhhh...this doesn't sound right.  Are you sure you have the correct
manifold?
spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com - 09 Nov 2005 23:22 GMT
On my V6, to make the heads the same there is a water passage at each
end of the head, but when the intake manifiold is bolted on, the
passages on the front go through the manifold,  and the passages at the
rear get blocked by the manifold.

If this is the case, you'd still think they'd extend the manifold
enough to block the passages.

D
 
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