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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2005

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carnut - 09 Nov 2005 21:52 GMT
What would cause this when applying the brakes slowig down? It is a
thump that slows as the vehicle slows. It is a 96 chevy 4x4. Happened
after I had the rotors turned.
spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com - 09 Nov 2005 23:26 GMT
Could be a contaminated spot on the rotor, or maybe the rotor wasn't
turned true, or (I've heard) a "hard spot" on the rotor. Maybe even a
piece of rust that didn't get removed when the rotor was turned .

Dave
carnut - 10 Nov 2005 13:28 GMT
The hard spot was the opposite wheel. It only happens when the brakes
are applied fairly hard.
Al Bundy - 10 Nov 2005 15:07 GMT
Or they could have left too much play in the wheel bearing,
carnut - 10 Nov 2005 15:34 GMT
What eactly do you meanand how can I check that?
> Or they could have left too much play in the wheel bearing,
spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com - 10 Nov 2005 17:50 GMT
Jack the wheel up, place hands at 12 and 6, and pull with one hand
while pushing with the other, then push-and-pull, back and forth, and
see if the wheel wiggles.

It could also be the caliper moving slightly in/on its mountings.

Dave
carnut - 10 Nov 2005 19:56 GMT
I went over the rotor after being turned with sandpaper for a "non
directional" finish.
Comboverfish - 10 Nov 2005 19:00 GMT
> What would cause this when applying the brakes slowig down? It is a
> thump that slows as the vehicle slows. It is a 96 chevy 4x4. Happened
> after I had the rotors turned.

What method did you use to determine that the *right* wheel is the
problem area?

If all you had done was a front brake job, I would suspect that one of
the rotors is rust-jacked, turned improperly, or the wheel was not
torqued in proper sequence - possibly catching the rotor at an angle
other than flat against it's hub.

Toyota MDT in MO
carnut - 10 Nov 2005 19:54 GMT
All I did is have the rotors resurfaced because the front end would
bounce when the brakes were applied. The pads were good so I left them
on.

I did notice the "sockets" where the caliper botls go would not come
out easily as the other side did. I took them out and they were scored
a little. I cleaned them up and greased them and reinstalled them. I
did notice a little round seal inside the bore looked broken a little.

I tested the wheel before I started and there was no play I could tell.
I tightened the wheel when done by hand using a "cross" sequence for
lack of a better term. Then tightened with my ratchet. Then took the
jack off and finished tightneing them with the ratchet.

How can I tell what this is and did I do everythign correctly?
> > What would cause this when applying the brakes slowig down? It is a
> > thump that slows as the vehicle slows. It is a 96 chevy 4x4. Happened
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> Toyota MDT in MO
Comboverfish - 10 Nov 2005 21:33 GMT
> How can I tell what this is and did I do everythign correctly?

At this point you could remove the front wheels, secure the rotors to
their hubs with the lug nuts (torque them to specs if possible), put a
dial indicator on the rotors and check for axial runout.  Then you
could mic the thickness of both rotors around several different spots
and note the maximum-minimum variation per rotor.  If axial runout is >
approx .002" then either the hub or the rotor is not true (probably the
rotor, dontcha think?)  If thickness variation is much > .001" that can
tend to cause a pulsating brake pedal and front shake when braking.
These numbers aren't set in stone, they're just generic readings where
a vibration or pulsation can begin to occur.

Let's say you find that the rotors weren't turned properly... My advice
IF you have a K1500 (you just wrote 1996 Chevy 4x4) is to buy new
rotors; I've found it difficult to keep those rotors true after a
couple turns.  They range in cost from about $25 to $50 each depending
on brand.  If you have an S-10/Blazer 4x4, their rotors are fairly
inexpensive as well.  I have less experience with them, but have not
heard anything about a high rate of rotor warpage in those models.

Toyota MDT in MO
carnut - 10 Nov 2005 22:08 GMT
But the sound is a thump and it was not there before I had the rotors
turned.

What if I swap the rotors? (Drivers side to passangers side)

Could the sockets that were scored and did not slide easy cause this?

> > How can I tell what this is and did I do everythign correctly?
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carnut - 10 Nov 2005 21:15 GMT
Listening. It sounds like the passanger side.
> > What would cause this when applying the brakes slowig down? It is a
> > thump that slows as the vehicle slows. It is a 96 chevy 4x4. Happened
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> Toyota MDT in MO
 
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