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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2005

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Ignition voltage requirements

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JonD - 10 Nov 2005 16:27 GMT
Hi all,

I've recently had a misfire on my car (Saab 900 2.0) that turned out to
be the coil gone bad (resistances were way out) and it's now fixed.
However, I want to understand the underlying reasons, as I can't quite
make the connections in my head.

The misfire was occasional at idle and light throttle at ~3000 rpm, and
heavy for 1/2 sec when accellerating hard from low revs.  All other
driving was perfect.

I'm trying to understand the relationship between the changes in
cylinder pressure, mixture and required ignition voltage that caused
this, but it doesn't stack up for me.  I understood that you needed the
highest firing voltage with weak mixtures at high cylinder pressures.
But the misfire occured mostly at idle (weak but low pressure).  It was
worst on hard acceleration (high pressure?, rich mixture) but fine at
high RPM full throttle (rich, high pressure).

I've seen some info about ignition voltage sag with the throttle snap
test, but no details.

Could someone explain any of this?

Cheers
Jon
HLS@nospam.nix - 10 Nov 2005 19:19 GMT
You are probably noticing that the effect of a dead or  limping cylinder
seems
to decrease as the RPM increases.   The imbalance is less noticeable.

I doubt it has anything to do with the ignition working better or worse, but
that could of course occur in some instances.
JonD - 11 Nov 2005 09:45 GMT
Hmm, it's definitely not a dead cylinder.  It's running totally
smoothly, then it misses and the engine cuts for a tiny fraction of a
second, then you get totally smooth running again.

I've had dead cylinders before, and this is different.  In fact since I
know the coil was bad, and this was a distributor ignition engine, the
misfire must have been happening randomly on *all* cylinders.

Cheers
Jon
HLS@nospam.nix - 11 Nov 2005 12:57 GMT
>  In fact since I
> know the coil was bad, and this was a distributor ignition engine, the
> misfire must have been happening randomly on *all* cylinders.
>
> Cheers
> Jon

That is possible.  Whether it is a dead cylinder, or a random miss, the
effect will appear to smooth out with higher rpm.  That is normal.  I cant
discount that the ignition may act differently at different rpms either.
 
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