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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2005NPR "Car Talk" never discusses NEW CAR epidemic flaws!
Wonder why we never hear about epidemic flaws in NEW cars on National Public Radio's CAR TALK. (cartalk.com) Is the show more interested in hiding new car epidemic flaws from the public (to protect the interests of manufacturers), than it is warning car buyers?! misterfact@yahoo.com If they spent all their time talking about new car flaws they'd never get to the entertaining stuff. The program is all about entertaining people. Heck, the flaws in the Toyota products alone would take two or three hours a week. I'd rather listen to the fun stuff than how Priuses stop dead for no reason, or why the front wheels fall off Tundras. Ed > If they spent all their time talking about new car flaws they'd never > get to the entertaining stuff. The program is all about entertaining > people. Heck, the flaws in the Toyota products alone would take two or > three hours a week. I'd rather listen to the fun stuff than how Priuses > stop dead for no reason, or why the front wheels fall off Tundras. You can be dead nuts certain there is an economic component to this reticence. >> If they spent all their time talking about new car flaws they'd never >> get to the entertaining stuff. The program is all about entertaining [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You can be dead nuts certain there is an economic component to this > reticence. Well they don't run ads. They do have a newspaper column and they do get vehicles from manufacturers to test drive. However over the years they said enough bad things about enough different cars on the radio program, that I doubt they are afraid of discussing how crappy new Toyotas are. They have car tests of a sort at http://www.cartalk.com/content/testdrives/ .Of course, they liked them all......They also have a survey feature where some people say some bad things about most cars (even Hondas), see http://www.cartalk.com/content/survey/lookup.html .I even tried their car recommendation feature. It showed me the cars I'd really like to have, not the one I'd actually buy... Ed > . Heck, the flaws in the Toyota products alone would take two or > three hours a week. ¨ > Ed What ARE you talking about, Ed... I thought the Toyota was the standard of cutting edge technology.???? > Wonder why we never hear about epidemic flaws in NEW cars on National > Public Radio's CAR TALK. (cartalk.com) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > misterfact@yahoo.com It's an entertaining weekend radio show. Dude, just change the channel. You are an idot. Yes, an idot. JazzMan  Signature********************************************************** Please reply to jsavage"at"airmail.net. Curse those darned bulk e-mailers! ********************************************************** "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry ********************************************************** >> Wonder why we never hear about epidemic flaws in NEW cars on National >> Public Radio's CAR TALK. (cartalk.com) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It's an entertaining weekend radio show. Dude, just change > the channel. Well it is more than that. They have a newspaper column, a web site, they rerun segments of the show on Sirius as fillers, they sell stuff, etc., etc. Like most people in the car reporting biz, they tend not to say really bad things about cars too often. They certainly aren't as bad a Motor Trend (Vega - Car of the Year, need i say more). They do actually say bad things about some cars when people call the radio show, and they do have certain pet brands (they are constantly recommending Subarus). They also seem to have a running feud with Jetta drivers...... I find the program very entertaining. So, even if they are getting paid off, why should I care? I never worry that almost anything I watch on TV is influenced by advertisers. I've never heard the Tappet Brothers (Tom and Ray) claim to be unbiased. In fact I think they often admit to being unencumbered by the thought process (or something like that). On a similar subject, sort of - do any of you people watch House on Fox. I enjoy the program. I find it interesting that they actually acknowledge the support of several prominent manufacturers of medical equipment at the end of the show. I wonder if they aren't drumming up business for some of the more elaborate equipment. Personally I would like a shot at the turntable thing they had a few episodes back (the manufacturer was clearly identified at the end of the show). Or for that matter, how about all the Dell monitors that show up on lots of shows. I wonder who decides that they need to shoot the scene over the back of a monitor. Most of us cubicle rats have the monitor backs against a wall where you can't see it. Do you think the Miami police ride around in Hummer H2s? I hope not. And I see the agents on NCIS (and a number of other shows), are suddenly driving new Dodge Chargers. Ed > Wonder why we never hear about epidemic flaws in NEW cars on National > Public Radio's CAR TALK. (cartalk.com) > > Is the show more interested in hiding new car epidemic flaws from the > public (to protect the interests of manufacturers), than it is warning > car buyers?! Because: 1. They offer repair advice. New car faults are covered by warranty. 2. If it was a design flaw you were concerned about, the only thing they could advise you to do is to think more carefully before buying your next car. SignaturePaul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ When I was in high school, I remember boys and girls slept together all the time. We called it algebra class. -- Jay Leno > Wonder why we never hear about epidemic flaws in NEW cars on National > Public Radio's CAR TALK. (cartalk.com) > > Is the show more interested in hiding new car epidemic flaws from the > public (to protect the interests of manufacturers), than it is warning > car buyers?! Which epidemic flaws or epidemic of flaws are you talking about. Which cars. Given your use of a medical term, I don't suppose you are linking new cars to the spread of the Avian flu epidemic are you? > > Wonder why we never hear about epidemic flaws in NEW cars on National > > Public Radio's CAR TALK. (cartalk.com) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cars. Given your use of a medical term, I don't suppose you are > linking new cars to the spread of the Avian flu epidemic are you? What hidden epidemic flaws in new cars am I talking about?! You must be kidding! All you have to do is look at the past record of hidden epidemic flaws in new car-to know that it is happening all the time! Hidden flaws are usually those which show up just AFTER the warranty expires. > > > Wonder why we never hear about epidemic flaws in NEW cars on National > > > Public Radio's CAR TALK. (cartalk.com) [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > in new car-to know that it is happening all the time! Hidden flaws are > usually those which show up just AFTER the warranty expires. WHICH EPIDEMIC FLAWS IN WHICH CARS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! I've owned new cars for the past 35 years and have yet to notice an epidemic of flaws. Actually the overall quality, reliability and sophistication of cars has gotten much better. Could it be that you are one of those rare people who perpetually see darkness when everyone else sees daylight? Or possibly just another troll looking to be fed. > WHICH EPIDEMIC FLAWS IN WHICH CARS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! > > I've owned new cars for the past 35 years and have yet to notice an > epidemic of flaws. Actually the overall quality, reliability and > sophistication of cars has gotten much better. How about the over 100,000 Saturns that went off the assmbly line into showrooms with casting flaws in the cylinder head. (causes cylinder head to crack-usually just after warranty expires)!? > How about the over 100,000 Saturns that went off the assmbly line into > showrooms with casting flaws in the cylinder head. (causes cylinder head > to crack-usually just after warranty expires)!? You'll forgive me if I have trouble coming up with much sympathy for those dumb enough to buy a Saturn or other piece of GM trash. You are forgiven. Generous Motors looks like it is going the way of Hudson and Studebaker (and none too soon). Regards, Marv >> How about the over 100,000 Saturns that went off the assmbly line into >> showrooms with casting flaws in the cylinder head. (causes cylinder >> head to crack-usually just after warranty expires)!? > > You'll forgive me if I have trouble coming up with much sympathy for > those dumb enough to buy a Saturn or other piece of GM trash. Hudson hung around as AMC for quite a few years, until being bought out by Chrysler (of course they promptly killed off everything but Jeep, which was really a Kaiser brand) but IMHO the Studebaker analogy is very apt; GM is getting destroyed by their labor costs relative to their (foreign) competition, just as Studebaker was getting killed by their higher labor costs (and also lower volume) than Ford and GM. The only difference I see is that Studebaker's products were appealing, if not popular, up until the end - IMHO GM's products are far more popular than they are appealing (at least to me.) nate > You are forgiven. Generous Motors looks like it is going the way > of Hudson and Studebaker (and none too soon). [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> You'll forgive me if I have trouble coming up with much sympathy for >> those dumb enough to buy a Saturn or other piece of GM trash. Signaturereplace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel > Hudson hung around as AMC for quite a few years, until being bought out by > Chrysler (of course they promptly killed off everything but Jeep, which [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >>> You'll forgive me if I have trouble coming up with much sympathy for >>> those dumb enough to buy a Saturn or other piece of GM trash. I guess it's like arguing religion, this hatred shown here for GM. People seem to get very polarized about this. The most reliable cars I've owned in my life have all been made by GM. I'm 56 and have owned plenty of all sorts and in many foreign countries when I was younger. They have just simply held up better for me than anything else. And, yes, after I read that all the UAW members who will shortly be laid off will still be paid their salaries, it's very likely that GM will fold. I don't see how any company can stand to be raped by a union contract that way. I'm a union member, Intl. Assoc. of Machinists, and hard pro-union, but what the UAW has done to GM here is unconscionable. The men I work with, and myself, have a hard time believing GM ever signed onto this. It'll be like seeing a good old and steadfast friend die. Just my opinion and worth what you're paying for it. Garrett Fulton > > WHICH EPIDEMIC FLAWS IN WHICH CARS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > showrooms with casting flaws in the cylinder head. (causes cylinder > head to crack-usually just after warranty expires)!? Even if those numbers are correct they are hardly an automotive epidemic my friend. Wonder why we never hear about epidemic flaws in NEW cars on National Public Radio's CAR TALK. (cartalk.com) Is the show more interested in hiding new car epidemic flaws from the public (to protect the interests of manufacturers), than it is warning car buyers?! misterf...@yahoo.com Note: Misterfact has been BANNED from posting messages on Car Talk bulletin boards for daring to pose the above question! > Wonder why we never hear about epidemic flaws in NEW cars on National > Public Radio's CAR TALK. (cartalk.com) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Note: Misterfact has been BANNED from posting messages on Car Talk > bulletin boards for daring to pose the above question! That's good news.
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