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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / November 2005Question about tires
I'm considering purchasing tires and I have some questions regarding the speed ratings. When I choose tires on "Tire Rack" it warns that the minimal rating for tires on my 4 cyl accord are H rated (130 Mph). The T rated tires (118Mph) are significantly cheaper. Given that I am not a "boy racer" and generally do not drive much above 65-70 I was wondering whether I would be OK with T rated tires? Why H is the recommended minimum rating on "Tire Rack"? Also what is the difference between the ratings other than what the top speed of the tire can handle? Regards, Tony. > I'm considering purchasing tires and I have some questions regarding the > speed ratings. When I choose tires on "Tire Rack" it warns that the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > than > what the top speed of the tire can handle? Well the tires may be different in other ways, quality of construction, tread compound, tread pattern, rated life, etc. The reason Tire Rack recommends H Rated ties is because that is what came on the car. The top speed of the car is likely limited to less than 130, either because it doesn't have enough power to go that fast, or because Honda included a speed limit in the PCM. Either way, it is likely the car can exceed 118 mph. So, say Tire Rack sold you the T rated tires and then you drove at over 118 mph and the tires blew out? Who would your lawyer go after? Clearly you were the idiot who bought tires that were not rated for the way you drove, but suing you wouldn't make anybody rich, so your lawyer or the lawyers of other victims affected by the accident would probably sue Tire Rack, the tire manufacturer, Honda, and anyone else even remotely connected to the accident because that is where the money is. So to protect themselves from bottom feeding scum sucking lawyers, companies like Tire Rack have to protect you from yourself. Now I am sure you will never drive over 118 mph and that the T rated tires are perfectly OK for your usage. Tire Rack will sell you the tires, but only if you don't make it clear what you are doing. Lots of tire stores won't installed tires that don't at least exceed the OE tires speed and load ratings. Just thank lawyers when you have to pay for tires that are far more than you need. Ed C. E. White <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote in article <hbbhf.4792$wf.2833@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>... > Now I am sure you will never drive over 118 mph and that the > T rated tires are perfectly OK for your usage....... ......which sets YOU up as the one who gave improper advice. If the tires blow out, the lawyers will be coming after YOU for your recommendation - which goes against the manufacturer's recommendation..... Your psychic abilities to evaluate the OP's driving styles and habits could be of value to many companies out there in the automotive business.....perhaps even Tire Rack!!! You are absolutely "SURE" that the OP will NEVER drive over 118 mph???? > Just thank lawyers when you have to pay for tires that are > far more than you need.... .....and, of course, people who give unsubstantiated advice, setting the lawyers up in the first place. > C. E. White <cewhite@mindspring.com> wrote in article > <hbbhf.4792$wf.2833@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > You are absolutely "SURE" that the OP will NEVER drive over 118 mph???? What frickin' amazes ME is that so many people firmly believe that tires will magically disintegrate if taken briefly above their speed rating. Its no wonder the economy is in such a mess with people spending their money to buy stupidly overrated tires for their cars. The speed rating is related to heat dissipation, and is intended to represent the maximum SUSTAINED speed that will not damage the tires under any forseeable conditions. I'd be much more worried about getting tires with excellent traction, good durability, and a good quiet ride than worrying about the stupid speed rating. Of course you're right, when it comes to legalese. Accidents happen, and should high speed and a blown tire be involved, the lawyer brigade would try to pin it on an "under rated" tire and whoever sold it, even if the tire still had a railroad spike sticking out of the sidewall. Tires with a higher speed rating often provide better handling (e.g., more precise turn in) than lower rated tires. The type of handling difference will result in more comfortable cruising at highway speeds, especially in adverse conditions (e.g., rain). In other words, in going from H to T rated tires, you might find your car less comfortable to drive on the highway. Some tire companies offer 30 day money back guarantees if you don't like the tire. Dan (This account is not used for email.) > I'm considering purchasing tires and I have some questions regarding the > speed ratings. When I choose tires on "Tire Rack" it warns that the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tony. > Tires with a higher speed rating often provide better handling > (e.g., more precise turn in) than lower rated tires. True. And to further that exercise, go with a lower-profile tire  Signatureremove MYSHOES to email > Tires with a higher speed rating often provide better handling > (e.g., more precise turn in) than lower rated tires. The type of [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> Tony. Thanks to everybody who responded, expecially Dan above. This was the type of information I was looking for as I figured that there perhaps were other differences besides the speed issue. Tony. Dan Beaton wrote: > Tires with a higher speed rating often provide better handling > (e.g., more precise turn in) than lower rated tires. And some lower speed-rated tires will provide MUCH better handling and traction than higher speed rated tires. There's no "rule of thumb" here at all. It depends on the quality, design, and construction, not the speed rating, of the tire. > I'm considering purchasing tires and I have some questions regarding the > speed ratings. When I choose tires on "Tire Rack" it warns that the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tony. In my area it is illegal to fit tires that are not at least the placarded tire rating. It makes owning some "performance" cars a real pain. how often would you be driving at 100+ mph speeds. bet u would be OK ! magnus |
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