i'm driving a rental Aveo. The papers do not state a year, but by the
low miles, it must be a 2006
The vehicle has manual doorlocks
The driver's door is setup such, that one can't lock oneself out
(without jumping through abnormal hoops). The lock button will only
allow itself to be pushed downward, if the door is closed
(presumptively with driver in seat), OR by using the key from outside.
I really love this.
Can a "normal" auto doorlock be modified to accomplish this?
Steve Mackie - 27 Nov 2005 20:19 GMT
> i'm driving a rental Aveo. The papers do not state a year, but by the
> low miles, it must be a 2006
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> allow itself to be pushed downward, if the door is closed
> (presumptively with driver in seat), OR by using the key from outside.
Honda's have been doing that for as long as I can remember. You can hold the
driver's outside door handle up and push the lock button, then close the
door as well.
GM has recently made the locks not work right away either. You push the lock
button on the door and the doors won't lock right away, takes a minute. Not
sure how well that works for not locking you out.
Steve
spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com - 28 Nov 2005 16:55 GMT
1 minute is much longer than an "Ignisecond", the time between locking
the door and realising your keys are still inside!
Maybe I'm the only 'sniglets' fan remaining...
Dave
Joe Kesselman - 27 Nov 2005 22:37 GMT
> Can a "normal" auto doorlock be modified to accomplish this?
Most auto door locks I've seen in recent years have had such a
mechanism, on the driver's door at least.
I doubt it can be retrofitted on a mechanical lock. Some electrical
locking systems will unlock the door immediately if you try to lock the
door while it's open and the key is still in the ignition; if you really
want to add this sort of feature to your car, that's what I'd investigate.
Might be easier and cheaper to keep a spare key in your wallet, unless
you're in the habit of locking both keys AND wallet in car. Downside is
that if you lose the wallet someone now has a key to your car and a good
guess about where it will be parked. So a better low-cost answer might
be to leave the spare key someplace else where you can get to it (ask a
friend to hold it for you, for example).
Evan - 27 Nov 2005 23:14 GMT
"Joe Kesselman" wrote in message:
> Might be easier and cheaper to keep a spare key in your wallet, unless
> you're in the habit of locking both keys AND wallet in car. Downside is
> that if you lose the wallet someone now has a key to your car and a good
> guess about where it will be parked. So a better low-cost answer might
> be to leave the spare key someplace else where you can get to it (ask a
> friend to hold it for you, for example).
Every car in America contains another copy of that "good idea where it
will be parked" inside of it...
Its the house keys that are attached to the car keys that I would be
much more worried about, as those people who are interested in
finding out where the car is going to be parked might use that info
and a copy of the key they found inside the car to wait until it and
its owner drive off to work...
Evan,
~~ formerly a maintenance man, now a college student...
Daniel J. Stern - 28 Nov 2005 03:34 GMT
> i'm driving a rental Aveo. The papers do not state a year, but by the
> low miles, it must be a 2006 The vehicle has manual doorlocks. The
> driver's door is setup such, that one can't lock oneself out (without
> jumping through abnormal hoops). The lock button will only allow itself
> to be pushed downward, if the door is closed (presumptively with driver
> in seat), OR by using the key from outside. I really love this.
This is a new and special feature to you...?
My 1962 Dodge, just like all its brethren, has the same feature. So did my
1965 Valiant. Amusingly enough, in 1971 Chrysler Corp. _deleted_ this
feature from all their cars, and marketed the change as "Keyless locking";
i.e., you had only to push the button down and close the door, and it'd be
locked. Apparently you can't please everyone.