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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / December 2005

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2001 Olds Alero

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ruggo - 04 Dec 2005 14:32 GMT
My car won't start! Turns over fine. Had some cold weather and thought it
might be water in tank so I put some HEET in. Didn't help. Changed the
fuel filter. Didn't help. Have pressure at the filter (loosened the
fitting after attempting to start and gas spewed).  Can spray starting
fluid in at intake and car will hit. Seems like no gas available. Loosened
gas line fitting where it goes in to small diaphram?(something that
operates off manifold vacuum) but had no gas at that point. Fuses looked
okay, but couldn't tell about 1 module. Any ideas?
Shep - 04 Dec 2005 15:13 GMT
No mention of engine ( chronic issue on these forums), you must check for
injector pulse at an injector connecor with a " noid" lite first. If good
get a pressure tester on the fuel rail test port and verify proper pressure.
> My car won't start! Turns over fine. Had some cold weather and thought it
> might be water in tank so I put some HEET in. Didn't help. Changed the
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> operates off manifold vacuum) but had no gas at that point. Fuses looked
> okay, but couldn't tell about 1 module. Any ideas?
Dog - 05 Dec 2005 23:13 GMT
>My car won't start! Turns over fine. Had some cold weather and thought it
>might be water in tank so I put some HEET in. Didn't help. Changed the
>fuel filter. Didn't help.    

Is your security light flashing? If so, leave the switch in the on position
for 10 mins. until the light stops flashing. Then try to start your car again.
This problem can be intermittent, but will usually get worse and be extremely
inconvenient. Sounds like the typical Passlock II defect in the Ignition Lock
Cylinder. A dealership will charge about $450 to replace it with another
defective part. GM will never own up to the defect.

My security light started coming on again about a year after paying the
dealership $450 to replace a faulty Ignition lock cylinder. I was at my wit’s
end.  My wife and kids would be stuck at night in some shopping center
parking lot waiting 10 minutes to reset the stupid thing. I was able to
Bypass, disable or Ghetto Hack my passlock II system on my 2002 Oldsmobile
Alero without relays or resistors. I  had my local Auto wiring tech install a
$5 on/off toggle switch into the yellow (resistance) wire that you are
supposed to cut and mount it under my dash in the event that a dealership
tech reset the security “fail- enable” mode or the battery stayed
disconnected for an extended period of time. All I  need to do is flip a
switch to break the circuit again while the car is running. Here is another
thread and some supporting evidence of why this actually works. The entire
job took 25 minutes. If my security light goes out, that’s when I know that
there’s a problem. You could also remove the bulb if the security light
really bothers you. This apparently works for both passlock I and passlock II.
There is an incredible link below  with high resolution pictures of the
wiring for your specific car. I included the actual photos that I used to
access my ignition lock cylinder wiring. Good luck and post with your success
stories! 12/4/05
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?TID=59694&PN=1&TPN=1

http://www.insurorsservicebureau.com/ISB%20technical/ISB_QA.pdf   page 4, The
PASS Key Module also has the ability to allow engine operation if it
recognizes a system fault in the ignition key reference circuit while the
engine is running. In this case the Module enters and remains in a mode which
allows the engine to be started and run without reading the resistance chip.
This mode requires that the original factory resistance chip key be in the
ignition lock
cylinder at the time the fault occurs. During this mode, the
security light will be ON all the time. When the key reference circuit is
repaired, the module will automatically reprogram itself to the mode
requiring the original resistance chip.

http://www.motorage.com/motorage/data/articlestandard/motorage/292005/169809/art
icle.pdf

page 3, If the correct key is in the cylinder and that circuit
fails while the engine is running, this is considered a
malfunction, not a theft attempt. The “Security” light
may turn on to warn of a system malfunction, but even if
it doesn’t, a key recognition circuit failure with the proper
key in the lock will cause the TDM to enter what GM
calls a “fail-enable” mode. Essentially, the theft-deterrent
system goes offline and the engine will start and run
with any key that turns the lock.

http://www.directwholesale.net/diagrams/Images.asp?ImageID=84&link=BULLDOG
http://www.directwholesale.net/diagrams/Images.asp?ImageID=87&link=BULLDOG

http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/   and click on vehicle wiring diagrams to
select your particular make.
 
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