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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / December 2005

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A bit OT: Oxy/Acetylene rig question

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Richard - 24 Dec 2005 12:34 GMT
This is a bit off topic, but I figured someone here would know the
answer.  A neighbor has a 20 year old oxy acetylene welding setup I'm
interested in buying, but I don't know much about these and a I want to
make sure the tanks, regulators etc. are not obsolete (eg, they haven't
changed the fittings since the mid '80's & I'll be able to get the
tanks filled or exchanged).  Anyone know?

TIA

Rick
will350@eskimo.com - 24 Dec 2005 12:44 GMT
    No problem  although they  might want to "hydro" the tanks
depending on the dates .

> This is a bit off topic, but I figured someone here would know the
> answer.  A neighbor has a 20 year old oxy acetylene welding setup I'm
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> Rick
Richard - 24 Dec 2005 13:03 GMT
Thanks for the reply.  Tanks are 1984, what do you mean by "hydro"?

Thanks again

Rick
Kruse - 24 Dec 2005 13:09 GMT
> Thanks for the reply.  Tanks are 1984, what do you mean by "hydro"?
> Thanks again
> Rick

Whenever you turn your tanks in for refill/replacement, the gas company
will look at the dates stamped on the tank. If it has been awhile since
the last testing, they will test the tanks underwater with some extreme
pressure for a burst test. Nothing to worry about if you exchange your
tanks whenever you purchase your gas.
Kruse - 24 Dec 2005 13:12 GMT
> This is a bit off topic, but I figured someone here would know the
> answer.  A neighbor has a 20 year old oxy acetylene welding setup I'm
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> TIA
> Rick

One more item you need to check into before you purchase. Talk to your
insurance agent and update your homeowners policy. This is one item
that may or may not be relevent, but some people forget to do this and
regret it later.....
Richard - 24 Dec 2005 13:46 GMT
Thanks Kruse!

Rick
Steve - 24 Dec 2005 15:35 GMT
Hmmm!

I have oxy/acetylene, argon, CO2, and Tri Mix (for stainless mig) in my shop
and I just take them into the gas dealer and they exchange them for me.

The only bottle I don't own is the TriMix and that belongs to the dealer and
no other dealer will fill it. I also pay monthly rental on this TriMix.

However I own all the rest, no longer have to prove ownership. I just go to
any gas dealer and they exchange bottle for bottle without regard to the
inspection dates.

I think the idea is, they get the exchange bottles cycled through inspection
and don't have to worry about refilling bottles that are out of date (the
refill process determine if they are due).

Many years ago (early '80), if you owned your bottles, you had to show proof
and if you didn't own any bottles, they had you make a deposit on "their
bottle" and charge a monthly rent.

Now they don't seem to question owner bottle exchange. And if you don't have
the the bottle, they rent theirs to you along with a deposit and the refill.

Something that you should be aware of, is the present day cost of Acetylene.
I stopped using it about 8 years ago due to the cost and now use tig or mig
for welding and plasma for burning. I still keep a small bottle around for
silver soldering and make sure the valve is tightly closed. I estimate a
simple gas welding or burning job can now use about a bucks worth of gas.. I
have never liked propane for welding or burning. MAP gas seems to be common
in industry but I don't have much experience with it.

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My experience and opinion, FWIW

Steve

Jerry Foster - 24 Dec 2005 21:08 GMT
> This is a bit off topic, but I figured someone here would know the
> answer.  A neighbor has a 20 year old oxy acetylene welding setup I'm
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>
> Rick

A couple other concerns.

An O/A rig has various seals, etc. that deteriorate with age.  In general,
they're inexpensive and doing a little re-building is no big deal...  So
long as you can get the parts...

There are some top-of-the-line manufacturers (Victor comes to mind) that are
widely distributed and for which parts are easily available.  Then there are
some off-the-wall ones where it becomes a real problem.

Jerry
Richard - 24 Dec 2005 22:53 GMT
Thanks for the continued input, very helpful.

Rick
 
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