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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / January 2006

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I want to pop an air bag

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Laurence - 04 Jan 2006 10:14 GMT
Firstly an apology if I have got any protocols wrong - this is my first
posting.

I want to fire a few seat mounted air bags.  I will buy seats from
vehicle dismantler and try to find a couple of wires connected to what
might be an air bag and bung 12 volts down them. Result should be loud
POP and airbag is deployed.

Has anyone out there tried this?
Can anyone suggest a source of info on deployment characteristics (the
manufacturers are very, very coy about triggering their devices)?
Anyone got any useful suggestions (other than Don't Do It)

Thanks

Laurence
HLS@nospam.nix - 04 Jan 2006 12:58 GMT
"Laurence" <laurence@townandcountrycovers.com> wrote in message
> Has anyone out there tried this?
> Can anyone suggest a source of info on deployment characteristics (the
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>
> Laurence

Nope, haven't tried it.  Your dismantler may be able to give you some wise
counsel.

One anecdotal account...my stock broker's daughter had an accident last year
in which the bag deployed.  The girl's leg was cut, but the damage from the
bag
deployment was more painful and took longer to heal.  Surprised me.  It
created
a friction burn.

To suggest that you be careful would be anticlimactic.
Laurence - 04 Jan 2006 16:20 GMT
We are close to firing our first one now.  I am satisfied that I
understand what is needed in the way of volts and amps for the inital
charge to fire and we are building a test rig to protect the users (ie
ME).

Will report on events if anyone is interested.
Alex Rodriguez - 04 Jan 2006 19:58 GMT
>One anecdotal account...my stock broker's daughter had an accident last year
>in which the bag deployed.  The girl's leg was cut, but the damage from the
>bag
>deployment was more painful and took longer to heal.  Surprised me.  It
>created
>a friction burn.

This is typical.   Most airbags are designed to restrain an average unbelted
male.  So when someone smaller has one deploy, they end up getting hurt or
killed.  
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Alex
qslim - 04 Jan 2006 23:30 GMT
There was a recall on Camry steering wheel airbags a few years ago. After
the dust settled, the parts department ended up with all these undeployed
airbags lying around that they could do nothing with (can't ship or toss a
live airbag, I suppose). So, what other option did we have than going out
back to the field behind the dealership with a pair of 30' leads and a
jump box. That was fun. If you set them upside down, you get an easy 40
feet of loft. Then they right themselves in the air and the airbag acts
like a parachute, softly returning the unit to earth. We started having
artillery-style competitions, marking out landing zones and massing with
firing angles, but then we ran out.
-Discaimer----we, including myself, are factory trained and ASE certified
pros who happen to love blowing up airbags and have enough sense to not
hurt ourselves or others. Don't ever do this, because it's dangerous and
such.
John S. - 04 Jan 2006 13:46 GMT
> Firstly an apology if I have got any protocols wrong - this is my first
> posting.
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>
> Laurence

I have to ask why you want to "pop" an airbag outside of a car.

 As was mentioned, be very careful, because you are dealing with the
equivalent of a small explosion and that expanding bag can fling loose
parts at very high speeds.
Laurence - 04 Jan 2006 16:17 GMT
We are carrying out some fairly basic research to help with product
development.   The whole test programme will be elevated to something
more formal once we have established that we are moving in the right
direction.

We will build a little test rig to ensure staff are protected at the
time of deployment.  We now have two seats (and another 10 ordered) and
it's all becoming quite exciting.
John S. - 04 Jan 2006 16:43 GMT
> We are carrying out some fairly basic research to help with product
> development.   The whole test programme will be elevated to something
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> time of deployment.  We now have two seats (and another 10 ordered) and
> it's all becoming quite exciting.

Sounds interesting.  If the constraints of the project permit, please
post an update.
spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com - 04 Jan 2006 17:22 GMT
On Dirty Jobs they just hooked that puppy up to 12V. Fired a bucket
fairly high into the air.

Dave
 
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