I replaced a freeze plug in my son's 1992 S-10 2.8. Had to remove the
tire and still couldn't get a straight shot at it to drive in the
replacement. Had to make a drift of a large dowel rod and it took
numerous attempts before I was finally able to drive it in flush.
Reaching in from above the upper control arm, was perhaps 20 degrees
from perpendicular. Wasn't sure I was going to make it. A couple of
months later and the same plug on the opposite side of the block has
rusted through and needs replacement. Any of you have any tricks or
pointers that would make the process easier? I rebuilt a few engines
back in my youth and this is trivial with the engine removed but
installed - what a bugger!
Thanks.
N8N - 06 Jan 2006 16:45 GMT
> I replaced a freeze plug in my son's 1992 S-10 2.8. Had to remove the
> tire and still couldn't get a straight shot at it to drive in the
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>
> Thanks.
There is a special tool for this procedure; an alternative might be a
socket sized to fit on a "wobble" extension. Alternately I have had to
resort to the rubber expandable plugs on some of my cars where I just
can't get a good shot at them, especially the older ones that use the
"disc" type freeze plugs. I've also heard that there's copper cup type
plugs that you set in and expand with a wrench, but my FLAPS looks at
me like I'm speaking in tongues when I try to describe this to them.
nate
Shep - 06 Jan 2006 17:00 GMT
Sounds like a repeat process ,but this rusting the plugs hints of poor
cooling system maintenance and this may continue to happen.
> I replaced a freeze plug in my son's 1992 S-10 2.8. Had to remove the
> tire and still couldn't get a straight shot at it to drive in the
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>
> Thanks.
Scott Dudley - 06 Jan 2006 17:25 GMT
> Sounds like a repeat process ,but this rusting the plugs hints of poor
> cooling system maintenance and this may continue to happen.
I flush the system annually for him and install new 50/50 Prestone.
>>I replaced a freeze plug in my son's 1992 S-10 2.8. Had to remove the
>>tire and still couldn't get a straight shot at it to drive in the
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spamTHISbrp@yahoo.com - 06 Jan 2006 18:33 GMT
Although, Shep, I have seen them rust from the outside-in, espoecially
where they're getting nailed with salt-spray.
Scott, if you don't mind the thought you may have to do it again in 5
years or so, there is a rubber core-plug with a nut that you insert
into the hole, tighten the nut, and the plug expands.
Especially useful for clunkers where pulling the engine is too much
work for the worth of the car.
-Dave
* - 06 Jan 2006 17:32 GMT
Disconnecting the motor mount on the affected side MAY allow you to jack
the engine an inch or more, giving you a straighter shot - or a slightly
better angle - on driving in the new plug.......
Be careful about hitting plastic/easily broken things against the firewall,
etc......
will350@eskimo.com - 06 Jan 2006 17:32 GMT
I stopped using metal plugs just because of the problems you
describe.Been using rubber plugs that expand with a nut on the outside
for years, Easy install and they DO last . They also pop out when
they're supposed to. A little more expensive but compared to the time
factor , really cheap . ( Reduces the "frustration factor" by a
considerable amount and they don't rust out)
Will
cavedweller - 06 Jan 2006 21:31 GMT
> I replaced a freeze plug in my son's 1992 S-10 2.8. Had to remove the
> tire and still couldn't get a straight shot at it to drive in the
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>
> Thanks.
Use a block heater for a plug...nothing says you have to use it :)
Al Bundy - 06 Jan 2006 21:54 GMT
Doesn't have to be a block heater. They make rubber expanding plugs for
this purpose.
HLS@nospam.nix - 07 Jan 2006 00:59 GMT
> I replaced a freeze plug in my son's 1992 S-10 2.8. Had to remove the
> tire and still couldn't get a straight shot at it to drive in the
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>
> Thanks.
There are expandable rubber sealed plugs that are a bit easier to get in.
I normally have a cheapo socket wrench that I use to drive in the Welch
plugs.
But in those tight spots, you just have to take it easy, align them the best
you can,and tap them in with as big a hammer as you can get in there.
As someone else said, you can, at times, remove a motor mount completely
or simply disconnect it and jack up the engine.
When you get that SOB out, feel down in the block with your finger to see
if it is clean, or if there is stopleak mud lying down around the plugs.
Be sure your coolant recovery system is working, to keep out as much air
as you can, and continue to refresh coolant on schedule.
sdlomi2 - 07 Jan 2006 02:57 GMT
>> I replaced a freeze plug in my son's 1992 S-10 2.8. Had to remove the
>> tire and still couldn't get a straight shot at it to drive in the
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> I normally have a cheapo socket wrench that I use to drive in the Welch
> plugs.
>snip<
Add an extension which has the wobble-feature ground onto the sides of
the socket-holding end--may help further. s
aarcuda69062 - 07 Jan 2006 03:18 GMT
> I replaced a freeze plug in my son's 1992 S-10 2.8. Had to remove the
> tire and still couldn't get a straight shot at it to drive in the
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>
> Thanks.
http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/otc4603.html
articulated installation tool, works at odd angles.
To make it even easier, you can buy an adaptor for an air chisel
that fits the end of the tool handle that allows using your air
chisel as an installation tool.