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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2006

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bonding agent instead of welding-quarter panel replacement 67 Camaro

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Rick2950 - 11 Jan 2006 20:45 GMT
We are having the quarter panels replaced on a 1967 Camaro due to some
damage in the wheel areas.

The shop that is going to do the work is asking if we would allow them
to use a bonding agent and overlap the seam area at the top of the
quarter panel instead of actually welding it.

We have no first hand knowledge of bonding agents versus welding, and
are looking for any feedback someone might want to share.

Thanks,
rick2950    aat hot male    if you want to email direct.
Nate Nagel - 11 Jan 2006 23:53 GMT
> We are having the quarter panels replaced on a 1967 Camaro due to some
> damage in the wheel areas.
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> Thanks,
> rick2950    aat hot male    if you want to email direct.

If this is the "fusor" system, I have heard good things about it but
have no personal experience.  Theoretically it should work well and
provide even better corrosion resistance as you wouldn't be burning off
the protective coating on the inside of the panel, and hopefully
providing an air and watertight seal which is theoretically attainable
with a weld, but requires more skill on the part of the operator.

nate

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gobroncos - 12 Jan 2006 13:32 GMT
You dont get the warpage that one would with welding, therefore less
bondo at the seam. Without a doubt, its the way to go! Jim
* - 15 Jan 2006 17:25 GMT
gobroncos <jimwill76@aol.com> wrote in article
<1137072732.254521.220010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
> You dont get the warpage that one would with welding, therefore less
> bondo at the seam. Without a doubt, its the way to go! Jim

But with bonding agents, you don't get a well-fitted, butt-welded,
grindable seam.....a seam that could - if done correctly - require
absolutely no filler - the Bondo brand being one of the fillers currently
on the market.

Properly randomized MIG welding usually avoids the warpage issue, but the
old-fashioned technique of "hammer welding" can allow for very straight
finished panels using Oxy-acetylene.

At worse, you might need a small dab of filler to take up welding
imperfections - although you COULD re-weld and grind.

With bonding agents, you get an overlapped seam, therefore MORE filler
needed along the entire length of the seam......Usually a LOT more filler.

I'll take a carefully-fitted, properly welded and ground seam every,
single, time.
RJ - 05 Feb 2006 22:21 GMT
If the underside is not water proofed by some means the panel will unbond in
a few years.  How do I know you ask?

> gobroncos <jimwill76@aol.com> wrote in article
> <1137072732.254521.220010@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
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> I'll take a carefully-fitted, properly welded and ground seam every,
> single, time.
 
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