I have a circuit I'm trying to wire that's got me somewhat baffled.
I created a crude diagram of what I have. It's posted on my website:
http://www.iceohio.com/diagram.jpg
Basically the alarm system sends out a pulse down the two wires to lock
it and reverses the polarity to unlock them. Simple enough.
I want to be able to unlock the Rear Door (RD) actuator independently
of the others with the negative pulse wire (in brown).
The problem that presents itself is that I don't have a constant
circuit to complete with the one wire. The ONLY way I can see that I
can get it to work would be to use a relay on each wire to the RD
actuator after it splits from the other two. One for + and one for -
and patch it into the wires going to the RD actuator.
That way, when the trunk latch release buttom is pressed on the remote,
it completes the circuit to both relays, completing a circuit to the RD
actuator in the correct polarity to unlock it.
I'm guessing I'll need diodes (1N4001/L) on the wires coming from the
relays (I'd need one on each, right?). I can't really use diodes on
the circuit itself, because of the reversing of polarity. From my
mental tracing, I should be ok there without any more diodes. Heck, I
may actually not even need the two diodes after the relays, because
when they're not energized, the segment of the circuit should be open,
and electron flow should go as desired.
The ECM is programmable, so I can tweak the length of the pulse to
accommodate any syncronicity issues between the two relays, so I should
be ok there.
It would have been a lot easier if they'd given a two wire programmable
option on the ECM, but I guess it really would have been the same
because they'd just have to use relays in the ECM.
So my question is... Will this work? I could do it the other way, but
I'd rather leave the relays in a resting state as much as possible. I
don't know if it really matters, but intuition tells me if you can
accomplish something without electricity, it's the preferred way to do
it :)
Joseph
joseph@vndinc.com - 02 Feb 2006 00:43 GMT
More info.
Good news (I think). I tested the leads running to the RD actuator and
they are both grounded when in a state of (neutral).
So here's my plan..
I'm going to determine which leads needs to be + to unlock the door and
put a relay on that wire. When it's not energized, it'll be on the
regular circuit, so it'll either be - in a neutral state or locking,
and positive when all the doors are being unlocked, or just the RD.
I think this will work, but still I wonder if I'll need any diodes.
I'm guessing not.
Anyone confirm this?
Thanks!
Joseph
Lawrence Glickman - 02 Feb 2006 00:47 GMT
>More info.
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>Joseph
Before I do something like this in the big world, I usually breadboard
the circuit and debug it on my desk. Saves a lot of grief later on
down the road.
What I mean, is build a similar circuit on your desk. If it works on
your desk, it might work on your vehicle.
Lg
komobu - 02 Feb 2006 07:16 GMT
There are a couple of ways to accomplish this. One of the easiest,
would be to purchase automatic lock actuators as if the vehicle didnt
come with power locks. Then you could wire the auto trunk button to
them. and still keep the original ones in place.
Keep in mind, alot of what you are trying to do will depend upon your
vehicle type. Chryslers and some other models, use one wire to control
the locking and unlocking of the vehicle. The control unit passes
somelike 250 ohms to the wire and it locks. If it passes 800 ohms it
unlocks. Your plan wont work if you have that type of system.
A great website for what you want is the12volt.com . There you can post
an you can download the wiring schematic for your car.
If you had to, you could put a diode on each wire to the power lock
motor. Then you could wire your relay for each leg. The12volt.com has
all the info you need for wiring the relays.
Hope that helps
Pat
joseph@vndinc.com - 02 Feb 2006 18:15 GMT
Pat,
I put all of the actuators in myself. It's a 99 Jeep Wrangler. I've
been to 12volt.com. That's where I found out the type diode i'll need.
Thanks!
LoLo - 04 Feb 2006 16:12 GMT
> Pat,
>
> I put all of the actuators in myself. It's a 99 Jeep Wrangler. I've
> been to 12volt.com. That's where I found out the type diode i'll need.
>
> Thanks!
Gee, I could not find anything on 12volt.com
All I got was a headache - awful site
joseph@vndinc.com - 10 Feb 2006 21:14 GMT
Update.
After some scrutiny I decided to scrap the idea. What I did instead
was add a couple relays and make a two pulse opener. Now I unlock the
driver door with one push, and the passenger/trunk with the second. No
diodes necessary.