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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / March 2006Want to do more side work? Want to bring more work into your shop?
Check out http://connect2mechanic.com/article.php/AboutC2M (Copy and paste the URL into your browser). Consumers can post Requests for Projects (RFP) for free, and Auto Technicians as individuals, Retail Repair Facilities, Students or Hobbyists can bid on repairing the vehicle as requested for them! Anyone signing up as a "Service Provider" before February 12, 2006 will have their Subscription upgraded to "Ultra," a $79.95 value, for 1 year at no charge! Check it out! Quick * jump on this guy for spamming the group lol ------------------------------------ Mike Mangione http://www.carforums.net > Quick * jump on this guy for spamming the group lol > > ------------------------------------ > Mike Mangione > http://www.carfarums.net Consider it done. > Check out http://connect2mechanic.com/article.php/AboutC2M (Copy and > paste the URL into your browser). Consumers can post Requests for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > upgraded to "Ultra," a $79.95 value, for 1 year at no charge! Check it > out! HA HA HA So far only three FREE subsrcibers have signed up. There is zero activity on the clumsy site. It's so easy these days to establish a web site and try to sell a poorly thought out concept. Fortunately, we can click through them for amusement or avoid them altogether. Another one bites the dust, as they say. Thanks for your input. The site has only been active for a few months, and the Hire a Tech feature has only been live for a few days. If you have any questions, I would be happy to answer them. BTW, If posting this here was inappropriate, then I apologize. Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1138996051.968935.112530@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... > Check out http://connect2mechanic.com/article.php/AboutC2M (Copy and > paste the URL into your browser). Consumers can post Requests for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > upgraded to "Ultra," a $79.95 value, for 1 year at no charge! Check it > out! What a great concept!?!?!?! Maybe, we can get doctors and dentists to "moonlight" too!! Doctors can come over and remove your appendix on the kitchen table using only common kitchen tools while dentists can do extractions with shop tools. Anybody who works "on-the-side" for even a penny less than he commands in the "real world" is telling everybody his real worth. If his employer can charge customers $50-per-hour for his skills and experience, and he chooses to work in his back yard for $10-per hour........who is the fool???? I've known shops that have "made arrangements" for their employees to work on the side on a more permanent basis...... .........rationalizing that it simply doesn't make sense to pay someone who wants to compete for the available business. And....... .....too many of the people who patronize these "moonlighters" believe that because they are working out of their own backyard shop, they are somehow worth a lot less money than "professional" shops........even if the backyard shop has more tools and equipment than many of the local "professional" shops...... I've seen the hoops that some of my friends have had to jump through to please these cheap bastards..........and. it isn't worth it. If I was working "on-the-side", I would much rather do a four-hour job for $50-per-hour than a 20-hour job for $10 per hour..... ......but, too many "moonlighters" figure that by being so busy at $10-per hour, they are making money hand-over-fist. That's also one reason why so many businesses go belly-up.....not charging what they are worth......... You make exellent points. However, that does not change the fact that technicians will "moonlight." This site will help to add a degree of protection to the customers (and technicians) of these moonlighters. Any job brokered through the site will be subject to "ratings" by the customers. Another thing that you are missing, the technicians don't "make" the door rate at their place of employment. The technicians could effectively double their pay rate, at home, and still save the consumer money in the long run. Additionally, this site does not cater only to the technicians "doing side work." There is no reason at all that shop owners (I already have a few shops on the list) cannot add their own shops to the list, and bid on these jobs, as well. The benefit of this is the same as the technicians. Consumers can rate the shop, and this can either help or hurt your future business. This will also, potentially, increase consumer awareness of your shop, your capabilities and your reputation. This is not necessarily a lowest bidder wins situation, either. The consumer picks from all bidders, with price, availability, previous ratings, and qualifications all adding into the decision. Just another note. One of the reasons that I decided to pursue this site, is that too many of my friends are tired of "getting taken" by so called "professional" repair facilities. I had a friend of a friend pay to have his distributor cap and rotor replaced on his 1995 Chevrolet Lumina. Ever seen a distributor on a 1995 Chevrolet Lumina? Me neither. Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1139258030.811140.222740@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... > Just another note. One of the reasons that I decided to pursue this > site, is that too many of my friends are tired of "getting taken" by so > called "professional" repair facilities. I had a friend of a friend pay > to have his distributor cap and rotor replaced on his 1995 Chevrolet > Lumina. Ever seen a distributor on a 1995 Chevrolet Lumina? Me neither. But....... .....your website states..... "It costs you nothing to post a RFP, and only $19.99 when you award a bid to one of our Technicians." Looks as though the people are still getting taken - just by a different scheme....... Okay, if I can build a transmission in my "shop" at home, and I can do it for $30 an hour, is the consumer going to save money over taking it to a "professional" shop? Am I going to make more money than if I did the same work for you at your shop? Isn't also the "same person" doing it? If I go and post a RFP for $19.99, and I save $150 over some other "schemer," (your word, not mine) didn't I just save $130? Would you spend $20 to save a few hundred? Do you have a "Sam's Club" membership? Do you save enough money to make that fee worthwhile? I absolutely agree that word of mouth is your best advertising. You should have nothing to fear from this site, then. And everything to gain. This site will give consumers a chance to shop price, reputation and availablilty without leaving their home. And without having to deal with high pressure shops face to face. The consumer has nothing to lose by posting. There is no obligation. Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1139340798.816438.320310@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... > Okay, if I can build a transmission in my "shop" at home, and I can do > it for $30 an hour, is the consumer going to save money over taking it > to a "professional" shop? Am I going to make more money than if I did > the same work for you at your shop? Isn't also the "same person" doing > it? Are you insured in case you drop my car off the lift????? Are you insured against a break-in to your shop and subsequent damage to my car?????? Are you insured against a fire????? What happens if your "transmission job" goes bad, locks up on the highway, and causes a terrible accident????? Are you covered for that???? (Yeah, I know! YOUR transmission jobs NEVER go bad.....) I don't believe you can work for $30-per-hour, cover all the above, and STILL make a reasonable profit..... Or, does saving money by hiring you mean that I - the car owner - have to take all the risks of you working on my car????? It is obvious that you have never actually run a profesional business before......... > If I go and post a RFP for $19.99, and I save $150 over some other > "schemer," (your word, not mine) didn't I just save $130? Would you > spend $20 to save a few hundred? Do you have a "Sam's Club" membership? > Do you save enough money to make that fee worthwhile? If I'm going to deal with a local moonlighter, why not save the entire $150 by getting a free recommendation from a friend who has actually done business with the moonlighter in the past?????? > I absolutely agree that word of mouth is your best advertising. So, a car owner can get a recommendation from a friend who has done business with me........ OR...... They can pay a total stranger (YOU!) $20 for a recommendation..... Which one makes more sense? The friend whom they know and trust?...... Or, the perfect stranger......one who SPAMS his website in the pursuit of business?...... DUH!!!!! > You should have nothing to fear from this site, then. I don't "fear" SPAMMERS....... SPAMMERS ARE SCAMMERS........... > And everything to > gain. This site will give consumers a chance to shop price, reputation > and availablilty without leaving their home. And without having to deal > with high pressure shops face to face. Much like they can when talking with a friend who has previously done business with the moonlighter......but $20 cheaper!!! Who needs your "service"????? All valid arguments. I have done transmission repairs at my home before, and yes they do come back sometimes. And, yes, I repair them for free the second time. I suppose nothing you ever do comes back? It is up to the individual, or retail facility to ensure their work is covered. Having a car fall off of a hoist is a concern for everyone, not just the guy underneath it, but he is the most important. The car owner would be the second priority. Not everyone knows where or who to turn to when their car breaks. This site will give them one more choice. Also, it is not me rating the transactions any more than eBay rates their transactions. It is the community, and I have absolutely no influence. As far as "spamming," I don't know of any "Spammers" that would take the time to address these issues. By the way, I naver got spammed on my email address the way I have since I posted in this newsgroup. All valid arguments. I have done transmission repairs at my home before, and yes they do come back sometimes. And, yes, I repair them for free the second time. I suppose nothing you ever do comes back? It is up to the individual, or retail facility to ensure their work is covered. Having a car fall off of a hoist is a concern for everyone, not just the guy underneath it, but he is the most important. The car owner would be the second priority. Not everyone knows where or who to turn to when their car breaks. This site will give them one more choice. Also, it is not me rating the transactions any more than eBay rates their transactions. It is the community, and I have absolutely no influence. As far as "spamming," I don't know of any "Spammers" that would take the time to address these issues. By the way, I naver got spammed on my email address the way I have since I posted in this newsgroup. Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1139257638.533643.131370@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... > You make exellent points. However, that does not change the fact that > technicians will "moonlight." This site will help to add a degree of > protection to the customers (and technicians) of these moonlighters. > Any job brokered through the site will be subject to "ratings" by the > customers. Any job I do in my shop is already subject to "ratings" by my customers. "Word-of-mouth" is my best marketing tool...... > Another thing that you are missing, the technicians don't > "make" the door rate at their place of employment. The technicians > could effectively double their pay rate, at home, and still save the > consumer money in the long run. Only stupid people believe that......If I have to tool-up my part-time shop to compete with another fully-equipped, full-time shop - and perform at the same competence level - where am I gaining? My shop is better equipped than half of the "professional" shops within a ten-mile radius. That should mean that THEY would charge less than me due to smaller investment.........but it simply doesn't work that way....... > Additionally, this site does not cater > only to the technicians "doing side work." There is no reason at all > that shop owners (I already have a few shops on the list) cannot add > their own shops to the list, and bid on these jobs, as well. The > benefit of this is the same as the technicians. Consumers can rate the > shop, and this can either help or hurt your future business. Why would I want to participate in and gamble on something that has the potential to HURT my business???? > This will > also, potentially, increase consumer awareness of your shop, your > capabilities and your reputation. This is not necessarily a lowest > bidder wins situation, either. The consumer picks from all bidders, > with price, availability, previous ratings, and qualifications all > adding into the decision. BTW - Is your keyboard one of those older keyboards that are missing the "return" or "enter" key? Judicious use of such a key would make your posts infinitely more readable.... This site doesn't make any sence to me. I have done a lot of side work. The thing is, how are you going to locate a mechanic that is close enough in distance to service your vehicle? If this site was to really catch on like ebay or something, bussinesses that have a lot of overhead, ie insurance, bussiness licenses, taxes etc etc would no longer be able to compete. They would call the local city inspectors / zones and report some one for working without a valid bussiness license. There are also mechanic liens that allow a shop to sell a vehicle if the repair bills are not paid. What can this mechanic do if his bill is not paid? Nothing if he is not a valid bussiness. On the other hand...if you cannot afford to have you car repaired at the going rate, one can always get with a local community college / votech and see if the car can be repaired as part of a class project. When you log in, and look at the jobs being posted, you will see a distance calculation between yourself and the poster. When posting, the poster has the option of restricting offers to certain localities, as well. Hey.....here's an idea!!!! Why doesn't SOMEBODY provide a Central Registry of people who work "off-the-books", "under-the-table", "tax exempt", etc. evenings and weekends so the IRS can keep tabs on them......perhaps collecting some taxes and fines???? Wait a minute!!!!! That's what YOU'RE proposing right now......isn't it??? Not any more than eBay is a registry for people buying and selling things without paying sales tax. This is a marketplace for people looking for the BEST deal (not necessarily the CHEAPEST) for getting their car repaired. Competition among providers will bring out the BEST price for the BEST work. If you are doing it out of your garage at home (because many technicians do that), or you are bidding as a retail repair facility. Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1140102242.106522.174370@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... > Not any more than eBay is a registry for people buying and selling > things without paying sales tax. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > are doing it out of your garage at home (because many technicians do > that), or you are bidding as a retail repair facility. You missed the point....... If I were doing "side work" or "moonlighting" at home - not collecting/paying taxes, etc. - then why would I register with your site? It would only serve to draw the attention of the IRS - who just might decide to check things out. On the other hand, if I were operating as a legitimate business - paying taxes, insurances, and other legitimate business expenses - chances are that I would not be able to "save" the customer the type of money that you mention - $150 - and still stay in business. Your OP lists ".....Auto Technicians as individuals, Retail Repair Facilities, Students or Hobbyists...." - not just Retail Repair Facilities..... The subject line lists "side work" - implying....to ME at least.... that it is targeted towards "moonlighters", NOT legitimate retail repair facilities. The EBAY analogy is not a good one. A good chunk of EBay business is interstate - thus not subject to taxation. MOST "moonlighting" occurs within a small geographic area - and is business activity that is subject to taxation. By the way, in reply to one of my comments, you stated that if a transmission "went bad" and came back you would fix it no charge. While that is certainly admirable, you failed to address the situation I outlined - transmission failing, locking up and causing a property damage/personal injury accident. Regardless of where you purchased anything, either through eBay, or some other mail order/internet business, if your state has a sales tax, you ARE supposed to pay the sales tax on items purchased for personal use. So, even though you purchased something online, out of state, by law, you are still supposed to pay your states sales tax on that item. There is a line on your income tax form for that purpose. Nobody ever does that, though. Just like nobody "reports" income from "moonlighting." Check that, I know of several "moonlighters" that do, in fact report their moonlighting income. I also know several that went from "moonlighting," to operating their own successful business. Because of the conversation that is going on in this thread, I have "reworded" my "About" to reflect the desire to include, maybe even "target" retail repair facilities for this site. The original idea was to have "moonlighting" techs exclusively - this idea has been running around in my head for several years. My main goal is to allow consumers the opportunity to explore all options in their auto repair experience, including ones they may not have been previously aware of i.e. "moonlighters." In this day and age of information at the click of a mouse, this seems like a perfect marriage. The other thing I want to accomplish, is to put the type of people that would charge someone to "replace a distributor cap and rotor on a 1995 Chevrolet Lumina..." out of business. It is my opinion that this industry has a well deserved reputation that is only slightly above that of lawyers (It's the 98% of lawyers that are bad, that give the other 2% a bad name...). If I can help weed out the riff raff, then I will feel my mission accomplished. Regarding your scenario where the transmission job goes horribly awry, I added a statement in my "Terms and Agreements" highly recommending that service providers acquire insurance for their "businesses." I also added a mandatory question in the profile as to whether the service provider has insurance. This type of insurance is not terribly expensive, and would be an excellent idea, anyway. I am trying to make arrangements where that insurance could be purchased through links on my site. I appreciate your comments, and if there is anything I could do to get your "approval," I would appreciate an open dialog. Please, feel free to contact me through one of the "contact us" links on the site. Thanks. > Regarding your scenario where the transmission job goes horribly awry, > I added a statement in my "Terms and Agreements" highly recommending [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > arrangements where that insurance could be purchased through links on > my site. I'm not a business owner (yet) nor have I taken appropriate classes for such a venture. This said, I'm sure you will have a hard time getting an insurance company to offer business class liability insurance to an individual who is not a registered, taxpaying service provider. I welcome anyone to share opinions to the contrary. Toyota MDT in MO > > Regarding your scenario where the transmission job goes horribly awry, > > I added a statement in my "Terms and Agreements" highly recommending [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > individual who is not a registered, taxpaying service provider. I > welcome anyone to share opinions to the contrary. You have a hard time getting business class liability insurance to an individual who -is- a registered, taxpaying service provider. At least, affordable insurance that would actually pay out in a claim. I'm sure there's plenty of scammers out there would would sell you "insurance" then disappear if there was a problem. Ted One of the Service Providers that has already signed up for my site started his busniness out of his garage. He has business insurance, and I contacted him about it. He said, "My biggest problem was finding someone that would insure me for working on motorcycles, too. I have a $1M rider for that, and I pay less than $500/year for insurance." I had rented a shop for the purpose of doing "side work," once upon a time. It was the policy of the property owner that I have insurance on my "business." It cost me less than $400/year for that. Insurance is not that expensive. The insurance companies want your ID and business number. You are just a front for a government sting operation aimed at the gray market in my opinion. Willingly or not willingly when they come after you with the warrant for your client list.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > One of the Service Providers that has already signed up for my site > started his busniness out of his garage. He has business insurance, and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Insurance is not that expensive. I do have an answer for all of the "tax evasion" type of concerns. This is probably not the place to link this, but the <a href="http://fairtax.org">Fair Tax Plan</a> would eliminate any concerns for all tax liabilities. HR25 in the House of Representatives, and S25 in the Senate. Eliminate all income taxes, and switch to a consumption based tax. Tax spending, not earning. Tax consumption, not production. Stop punishing acheivement. Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1140192664.295191.35170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>... > I do have an answer for all of the "tax evasion" type of concerns. This > is probably not the place to link this, but the <a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > consumption based tax. Tax spending, not earning. Tax consumption, not > production. Stop punishing acheivement. A lot of questions that this thread has brought up are now answered..... ......but, I agree that this guy has the strong potential of being an unwitting participant in an IRS tax sting...... .....especially if he has already publicly aligned himself with the "tax protesters"...... I wouldn't register on his site for a million dollars, now....... Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1140192664.295191.35170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>... > Eliminate all income taxes, and switch to a > consumption based tax. Tax spending, not earning. Tax consumption, not > production. Stop punishing acheivement. Moonlighters are not known for collecting consumption-based taxes......or, ANY taxes for that matter. > Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article > <1140192664.295191.35170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Moonlighters are not known for collecting consumption-based taxes......or, > ANY taxes for that matter. And if they did pay taxes and buy all the insurance, equipment etc they'd soon find out they have to charge just as much as the other shops in the area to make a living. > And if they did pay taxes and buy all the insurance, equipment etc they'd > soon find out they have to charge just as much as the other shops in the > area to make a living. You know......it's guys like you that ruin other peoples' Internet dreams by introducing FACTS!!!!! LOL!!!! All of the points that you have brought up does not change the fact that people in our line of work, do side work. If I can help consumers save money, and keep them from getting ripped off, while helping individuals that do side work, and retail repair facilities that wish to participate make more money in the process, then I will consider my mission accomplished. And yes, it may be true that "moonlighters" may, or may not collect consumption taxes in the process of "moonlighting," when the FairTax proposal is passed, they certainly will PAY consumption taxes when they spend their hard earned money at the retail level. Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1140450804.365199.264330@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>... > All of the points that you have brought up does not change the fact > that people in our line of work, do side work. If I can help consumers > save money, and keep them from getting ripped off, while helping > individuals that do side work, and retail repair facilities that wish > to participate make more money in the process, then I will consider my > mission accomplished. Boy.....you're a really noble son-of-a-bitch - aren't you?!?!?! If the above are your ONLY concerns, why are you charging on both ends? The moonlighters need to register and pay you a fee (current, temporary "free" registration on a potential IRS non-taxpayer "hit list" notwithstanding), and the consumers need to pay you a "finder's fee. Talk about ripping people off!!!!! Who, exactly are you serving???? The moonlighters who register with you or the consumers who pay you fees? You cannot serve two masters and maintain your self-assigned nobility. You don't think the consumers could be "ripped off" by uninsured, unqualified moonlighters who charge substantially less than a "retail" establishment that has all the insurances and certifications and do a botched job - either intentionally or unintentionally???? Honest, upstanding, law-abiding moonlighters who are more than willing to circumvent current tax laws. Yeah, I know about your internet-based "reporting system." I also know about local word-of-mouth from satisfied customers. Unless I'm planning to bring my car to a different geographic locale to have it worked on (....and WHY would I want to do that?) then local word-of-mouth from a trusted acquaintance - who has had experience with a given moonlighter - has much more value to me than words from the wide-ranging pool of complete strangers on a computer screen. You don't believe people who circumvent the tax system are "ripping off" the people who pay their taxes????? > And yes, it may be true that "moonlighters" may, or may not collect > consumption taxes in the process of "moonlighting," when the FairTax > proposal is passed, they certainly will PAY consumption taxes when they > spend their hard earned money at the retail level. No taxes will be collected if they, too, choose to spend their untaxed income with other tax-evading moonlighters...... .....it's called an "underground economy".......something you anti-tax types seem to glorify.......while STILL expecting the same - or increasing - level of government handouts.....handouts that are financed by taxpayer dollars. Carried out to its logical extensions, what you propose as a "fair" tax will be circumvented on a regular basis by moonlighters. Apparently, you seem to believe that, somehow, collecting only half the taxes - the spending of untaxed earnings - will make your proposed "Fair Tax" scheme fair and equitable. What a crock!!!!!! So, you don't like my idea? That's fine. I didn't post this here to gain your approval. It wouldn't matter what I said, you just don't like the idea of increased competition. You rip on me, because I intend to charge on "both ends" of the transaction. Do you feel the same way about eBay? They charge on both ends, are they "Noble son's of bitches" too? How about your own business? Do you charge more for the parts you install than what you paid for them? If so, why would you charge on both ends of that transaction? All you do with the part is carry it from the parts delivery truck to the vehicle that needs it, don't you make "enough" off of the installation? For the record, I am not an "anti tax" type. I am an "anti business, anti American , anti capitalist" tax code "type." Any tax code that costs billions of non productive man hours each year just to COMPLY with is just such a code. I am not recommending to any of my "members" that they avoid their tax obligation. The FairTax would make it so much easier. I would highly recommend that you read "The FairTax Book," by Neal Boortz for more information, before you attack me as being "anti tax." Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1140616351.269537.162950@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... > So, you don't like my idea? Quite frankly, my opinion of it is that it is a ripoff in itself....and there ought to be a website warning people about it. You're trying to set yourself up to get paid for something that word-of-mouth among friends has accomplished for eons. Plus.......you are, effectively, asking a number of tax-evading, under-the-table, moonlighters to register themselves in a "I-just-might-work-under-the-table-for-cash" database - making it simple for the IRS to set them up in a "sting." What tax-evading moonlighter in his right mind is going to respond to an anonymous RFP????? For THAT matter..... What legitimate business in its right mind is going to try and compete with moonlighters who are not bound to the CODB that legitimate businesses are??? You've got a losing concept that is being run - in my opinion - by a loser with absolutely no grasp on either legitimate or underground business reality > That's fine. I didn't post this here to gain your approval. It wouldn't > matter what I said, you just don't like the idea of increased [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > transaction. Do you feel the same way about eBay? They charge on both > ends, are they "Noble son's of bitches" too? eBay doesn't make the same sort of altruistic claims as you do. (quoting from your last post).... "If I can help consumers save money, and keep them from getting ripped off, while helping individuals that do side work, and retail repair facilities that wish to participate make more money in the process, then I will consider my mission accomplished." You missed mentioning, "Oh yeah! If I can make a quick buck at it, too!......." > How about your own > business? Do you charge more for the parts you install than what you > paid for them? If so, why would you charge on both ends of that > transaction? All you do with the part is carry it from the parts > delivery truck to the vehicle that needs it, don't you make "enough" > off of the installation? Again, you show your total lack of business understanding. The restaurant where I eat breakfast also charges me much more than they pay for the eggs and bacon..... Builders mark up building materials...... Hospitals mark up medical supplies...... Appliance repair people mark up their parts...... All sorts of service industries mark up their parts and supplies..... etc., etc............ And, even more - perhaps MOST importantly, I do not justify being in business by suggesting that it exists for altruistic purposes only....as do YOU!!!! Everybody I deal with understands that I am in business to make a living, and that I refuse to jeopardize my business' existence by exposing myself to potential tax-evasion charges. > For the record, I am not an "anti tax" type. I am an "anti business, > anti American, anti capitalist"..... THAT ought to win you many, many followers.........especially among the so-called "retail repair shops" you claim to be recruiting for your page. "Hey, I'm anti business, anti-American AND anti capitalistic......Would YOU like to register your capitalistic, American business on my website?" Perhaps, with that sort of philosophy and attitude towards the American way of life, you ought to be recruiting in the Arab countries????? With Iran setting themselves up for "nuclear electricity generation", there ought to be a boom in petroleum-using automobile usage over there. Try spouting your anti-governmental B.S. over there........and see what happens. > I am not recommending to any of my "members" that they avoid their tax > obligation. The FairTax would make it so much easier. I would highly > recommend that you read "The FairTax Book," by Neal Boortz for more > information, before you attack me as being "anti tax." Does this guy show the math where collecting consumption taxes only half the time amounts to the same number of tax dollars collected as when they are collected ALL the time? You remember what you said....the moonlighter doesn't collect consumption taxes on his work but pays consumption taxes when he spends the non-taxed money. I may be foolish, but doesn't this mean that the guy who paid the moonlighter cash, under-the-table, has, somehow, evaded paying taxes in your "Fair Tax" system. When does HE pay HIS "Fair Share?" Connect2Mechanic.com <solson440@insightbb.com> wrote in article <1140616351.269537.162950@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... > So, you don't like my idea? Apparently, nobody else does either. Free registration, waived commissions, and you STILL cannot get people to sign up. The same pathetic single RFP for an oil change, and the same five pathetic "shade tree garage mechanics" that were there weeks ago. Give it up!!!!! Looks as if the plug has been - mercifully - pulled on this mis-adventure...... |
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