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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2006

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Timing specification for a 1997 V8 350 in a truck.

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yelcab2@aol.com - 07 Feb 2006 16:15 GMT
Hello

I am helping out on putting together a V8 350 engine in a truck. I
can't find the timing specification (8 degrees BTDC???) for this
engine/truck. It has HEI and no vaccuum port on the dizzy.

Plus, any trick on installing the distributor? I think we have it
slightly off and it is not firing but there is gas, and air. So I
suspect timing is off. What is a good method for setting the static
timing on this engine?
aarcuda69062 - 07 Feb 2006 18:51 GMT
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<1139328937.244482.5600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,

> Hello
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> suspect timing is off. What is a good method for setting the static
> timing on this engine?

There is no static ignition timing on a 97 Chevy truck with a 350.
The ignition system is triggered off of a crankshaft position
sensor and is not adjustable.

There is a specific procedure for installing the distributor and
making sure that the camshaft position sensor is synchronized
correctly, initial installation is covered in the factory service
manual, Mitchell On Demand and Alldata, final adjustment requires
a capable scan tool.
lugnut - 07 Feb 2006 20:02 GMT
>Hello
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>suspect timing is off. What is a good method for setting the static
>timing on this engine?

How tight did you set the valves?  I've seen this symptom in
several where the valves set too tight by a novice resulting
in little if any compression on a fresh start.

Lugnut
yelcab2@aol.com - 07 Feb 2006 21:19 GMT
1. I did not notice a crankshaft position sensor, but I am new to GM.
What does it look like an where is it so I can inspect it.
2. Where would the camshaft position sensor be?
3. I did find the valves to be all loose, so I adjusted 8 valves on 1
TDC, and then 8 more on 6 TDC. I adjust until all push rods cannot
rotate anymore, and then 1 full turn beyond that (according to the
after market manual)

According to the same manual, the dizzy installation instruction is a
little vague and hard to understand. It also calls for final adjustment
using a scan tool that I do not have. All I want to do is to get the
thing to fire and then I can further use a timing light to inspect it.
The way I did it is 1) mark the position of the 1 position on the dizzy
base, 2) bring cyl 1 to tdc, 3) line up the oil pump gear, 4) rotate
the rotor back and install the dizzy. The end result is the trailing
edge of the rotor edge lines up with the #1 mark I made. I would have
felt more comfortable with it being the leading edge of the rotor. I
can actually rotate the dizzy to make that , but should I? Or should I
remove the dizzy and do it again?

Can you give instruction to install the dizzy?
yelcab2@aol.com - 07 Feb 2006 21:42 GMT
One BIG correction, it is a 1994 K2500 PU 4WD, 5.7L V8 (sorry , it is
not my truck otherwise I would have gotten it right the first tim).
aarcuda69062 - 08 Feb 2006 02:32 GMT
In article
<1139347146.761944.78920@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,

> 1. I did not notice a crankshaft position sensor, but I am new to GM.
> What does it look like an where is it so I can inspect it.
> 2. Where would the camshaft position sensor be?

Now that you've corrected your model year information, you can
stop looking for the crank and cam position sensors, they aren't
there in 1994 model year.

> 3. I did find the valves to be all loose, so I adjusted 8 valves on 1
> TDC, and then 8 more on 6 TDC. I adjust until all push rods cannot
> rotate anymore, and then 1 full turn beyond that (according to the
> after market manual)

You've bottomed out the lifters.
Go back and readjust them, go 1/2 turn from where the slop is
taken up in the rocker arm.

> According to the same manual, the dizzy installation instruction is a
> little vague and hard to understand. It also calls for final adjustment
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Can you give instruction to install the dizzy?

TDC #1 cylinder on compression stroke, align rotor so that it
points to #1 terminal on distributor cap.
yelcab2@aol.com - 08 Feb 2006 14:55 GMT
Thank you That was it!.

There was no compression so the valves were too tight. Went back,
adjusted them looser, found TDC 1, lined up the leading edge of the
rotor to the 1 mark on the dizzy. There were sparks, air, fuel, correct
timing and the engine fired right up.

All is well. Thanks again.
 
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