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Car Forum / Driving, Maintenance, Tuning / Maintenance and Repair / February 2006

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99 Maxima ran good when turned off - now won't start

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lugnut - 21 Feb 2006 05:16 GMT
99 Nissan Maxima w/3.0L EFI and automatic, 135k miles.  It
was started and move from garage so kids could play while
raining.  Started easily and ran well to bring back into
garage.  Next day, it cranks as it should but, won't start.
It will fire momentarily if carb cleaner sprayed into intake
which suggest it is getting ignition.  I have no other way
to check this one.  It has COP all of which were replaced a
couple of months back like many Nissans.  Plugs are also
new.  I do not hear anything that sounds like fuel pump
activity when the key is turned on.  I believe this is fuel
or lack of fuel related.  I have been unable to find a fuel
inertia shutoff switch on this one and I cannot find one in
the only wireing diagram we were able to find for the fuel
circuits.  The fuel pump fuse is good with power passing
thru the terminals and there does not appear to be a relay
in this one.  Does anyone have any idea what I am looking
for before we simply dissect the whole damn car?  I don't
want to shotgun it with parts to get it going.

Lugnut
Comboverfish - 22 Feb 2006 06:03 GMT
> 99 Nissan Maxima w/3.0L EFI and automatic, 135k miles.  It
> was started and move from garage so kids could play while
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>
> Lugnut

Assuming your Maxima doesn't have an immobilizer key recognition issue,
I would check fuel pressure first.  It doesn't require that much
'dissection' to get started.  Find out what vital component you are
missing before getting worried about the advanced tests.  BTW, the FP
relay is in the left kickpanel area -- and there is no Fordesque
inertia switch on Maximas.

Toyota MDT in MO
lugnut - 22 Feb 2006 14:19 GMT
>> 99 Nissan Maxima w/3.0L EFI and automatic, 135k miles.  It
>> was started and move from garage so kids could play while
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>Toyota MDT in MO

Thanks.  I'll take a look.  As far as I can tell neither
ignition key works.  This thing belongs to my sister.  It is
still sitting hoping we come up with something.  It is a
long haul (ie expensive tow) from where the car is to anyone
known to be competent in Nissan repair.  It appears that I
may have to cut the mumified fuel hose to check the fuel
pressure.  From what I can learn so far, there is not a
pressure tap as found on most cars I am familiar with.

Thanks

Lugnut
Comboverfish - 22 Feb 2006 15:42 GMT
> It is a
> long haul (ie expensive tow) from where the car is to anyone
> known to be competent in Nissan repair.

Other than their God awful repair manuals, Nissans aren't moch
different than any other car.  Anyone that can fix cars will be able to
diagnose this one quickly.  They may not have the factory Consult
scantool to deal with a possible immobilizer issue, though.

> It appears that I
> may have to cut the mumified fuel hose to check the fuel
> pressure.  From what I can learn so far, there is not a
> pressure tap as found on most cars I am familiar with.

That's what banjo bolt adapters are for.  Find the fuel filter or the
fuel line to fuel rail junction and one of those should be a banjo
bolt.  Another option: I don't remember if the '99 uses a quick
disconnect fitting, but if it does, it should be the same diameter as
the common size quick disconnect adapter found in many pressure tester
kits.  Star makes a decent kit with an assortment of banjo fittings for
cheap.  You could probably get one through a Car Quest or Napa via
their distribution warehouse same day if you live in a metro area.

> Thanks
>
> Lugnut
lugnut - 22 Feb 2006 19:25 GMT
>> It is a
>> long haul (ie expensive tow) from where the car is to anyone
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>> Lugnut

Problem solved this AM!  It was my BIL who is a cheapskate
sometimes.  He wanted another key which he had made at Home
Depot after I told him it would not work.  He had kept
trying to have start it with the generic key while pumping
the gas flooding the hell out of it.  Friend with passing
knowledge of Nissans stopped by and after hearing this which
was not admitted to me was able to floor the fuel and start
it in under 15 secs with the correct key.  The bogus key is
the one he gave me when I was trying to get it going.  Now,
if I can get my shoe out of his a.s......

Lugnut
NickySantoro - 22 Feb 2006 23:40 GMT
>>> It is a
>>> long haul (ie expensive tow) from where the car is to anyone
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>
>Lugnut
How did you get your foot and his head up there simultaneously?
lugnut - 23 Feb 2006 00:48 GMT
>>>> It is a
>>>> long haul (ie expensive tow) from where the car is to anyone
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>>Lugnut
>How did you get your foot and his head up there simultaneously?

My sister had pulled it out so she could rip it off!  It is
likely this could be a looooooong dry spell at home for him.

Lugnut
Comboverfish - 23 Feb 2006 15:35 GMT
> Problem solved this AM!  It was my BIL who is a cheapskate
> sometimes.  He wanted another key which he had made at Home
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>
> Lugnut

That's what I meant by 'possible immobilizer issue'.   The transponder
key security system, IOW.  Glad you got it running.

Toyota MDT in MO
 
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